"Stroll benefited from a FREE pitstop!" | Lando Norris on mandatory pitstop rules under red flag

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McLaren's Lando Norris rewatches the key moments from his Italian Grand Prix performance, and explains why he thinks the rules on mandatory pitstops need to change so they are not exploited during red flag situations.
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Clash with Simon
Clash with Simon 2 miesięcy temu
But if it was lando with the free pitstop and P3 and Stroll complained there would be no one agreeing
Wendy Parrott
Wendy Parrott 2 miesięcy temu
No mandatory pit stop should have a least a drive though, not penalty but entering the pit lane as a mandatory thing.
Joe Rabone
Joe Rabone 2 miesięcy temu
I think the fairest thing would be allowing teams to do what they want during a red flag but then make them have a mandatory drive through within 2 laps of the restart
The MAJOR
The MAJOR 2 miesięcy temu
Very POOEY rule indeed.
Daniel Brown
Daniel Brown 2 miesięcy temu
Lando is spot on. If stroll has changed tires during the red flag then he should have 24 seconds added to his race time. Every other driver pitted during the race and stroll has massively gained from this
Daniel Pouton
Daniel Pouton 2 miesięcy temu
Typical f1 driver crying on
Sam Todd
Sam Todd 2 miesięcy temu
Yeah completely agree. Pretty sure formula 2 don’t adopt this rule in a red flag and not sure why F1 won’t remove it
Bear
Bear 2 miesięcy temu
Future world champ 🏆
Extra Tom
Extra Tom 2 miesięcy temu
F1 is a team sport and strategy is apart of that, luck shouldn't exist. May the best team win. Also the pit lights are so dumb. If anyone should've received a penalty it should be the people that placed them there. Hamilton wasn't in the wrong.
ocelotrevs
ocelotrevs 2 miesięcy temu
Tough.
NationVenomous
NationVenomous 2 miesięcy temu
Its about tyre compounds. there never was a mandatory pit rule
NationVenomous
NationVenomous 2 miesięcy temu
only people complaining are those that lost out lol.
nigelo92
nigelo92 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll lucks onto his second podium, shame.
Alex G.
Alex G. 2 miesięcy temu
hahah GG LANDO
SJ Spode 114
SJ Spode 114 2 miesięcy temu
F1 is all about exploiting the rules & the loopholes, even the crappy rules... But completely agree with Lando. IMO - No tyre changes unless there's damage or you're changing from wet to dry or vice versa- don't even allow advantage of new sets of same compound to be changed on red flag.
Zero Ninety
Zero Ninety 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll should have won that race, he had a free pitstop, track position at the restart and a better car than Gasly but he didn't have the talent to get the job done.
J. J. Thompson
J. J. Thompson 2 miesięcy temu
Daniel's move? I don't remember that one 🤔
SIXITHS
SIXITHS 2 miesięcy temu
On Bottas lap 1 out of the second Lesmo.
Tommy Haywood
Tommy Haywood 2 miesięcy temu
Totally correct. It's unfair. Also Daddy's Cash totally hashed the Roggia, totally left the track and kept his places. Not on
Seshadhri S
Seshadhri S 2 miesięcy temu
@Tommy Haywood He lost time to the people in front and Norris messed up getting him tbh
Tommy Haywood
Tommy Haywood 2 miesięcy temu
@Seshadhri S seems unfair. Should be a wall there
Seshadhri S
Seshadhri S 2 miesięcy temu
He took the required route when out of track and came back where he did. Doesnt need to give the position back.
TheNoviceSimRacer
TheNoviceSimRacer 2 miesięcy temu
Still didn’t help stroll even with a free stop he should of won he had a 25 second advantage on everyone with the free stop and over 1 minute on Lewis and if he had 5 more laps stroll would of lost out to Lewis aswell
Srikanth Subramani
Srikanth Subramani 2 miesięcy temu
He used words that aarava uses for example argy bargy and elbows out lol
harrapino
harrapino 2 miesięcy temu
These are very common terms
inelectron
inelectron 2 miesięcy temu
Tyres shouldnt be allowed to be change, you didnt pit so thats your fault. Imagine a grid restart with lets say hamilton on old tyres and the rest on fresh, the mix up would be very entertaining.
Tushar V
Tushar V 2 miesięcy temu
Wait why was Raikonen on the soft tyres after the red flag? He would have had a way better race if he didn't have tyres that fell off a cliff
Meekz
Meekz 2 miesięcy temu
FIA should add 26sec (Pit Stop Time) to his end time so we get a real 2-3 as he did not "Pit" which you need to...
simon jackson
simon jackson 2 miesięcy temu
In regards to the "free" pit stop under the red flag, Lando has a point...
J T
J T 2 miesięcy temu
Lando is a cocky little prick, it's going end in tears.
bot
bot 2 miesięcy temu
I think a red flag should also count into the parc fermé rule, not touching the car except for cooling since that’s mandatory, the teams should only be able to apply the coolers to the intakes on the engine and brakes and then stand aside. Should’ve been a McLaren double podium but oh well..
cosmin77sin
cosmin77sin 2 miesięcy temu
Make 2 a stop mandatory, you can pick whatever tires you want all the way (for example from soft to soft to soft), you can pit under SC or VSC but Red flag is not a pit stop. Make it simple and we will have more exciting racing and less confusion. That way, even if there is a SC everyone can pit and change their strategy even if they are on fresh rubber as they can basically consider it as a one stop race in terms of tires. That way the SC is not such a big disrupter (like what happened to Gasly in Spa). Making 2 pit stops mandatory would improve the sport in terms of speed (they can push more), entertainment value (different strategies mixing things up more) whilst keeping things fair and not compromising the sport DNA (2 stops are not something now).
MrSniperfox29
MrSniperfox29 2 miesięcy temu
@cosmin77sin Obviously I am confusing you, I',m sorry facts are such a hard concept for you If Mercedes didn't have to use two types of tyre, they would simply bolt softs on, build up a thirty second lead, pit, more softs, and repeat. Hell they could make an extra stop and still win by a mile (this has been shown this season) In fact, this very system is how Schumacher dominated the 2004 championship, go very very fast, make lots of pit stops but always be on fresh rubber. Your "plan" wouldn't see any improvement for this season (apart from no tyre blow outs in Britain so an even more boring race) and let Mercedes dominate every more in Belgium. And since 2021 is the same cars, no imprvement there either. Now we can all fantasize about what the 2022 cars will do, but until we know, there is no point claiming "well they can do X" because you have no idea what will actually happen other than you confusing the fans ever more (since they can't even understand you can make tyre stops under red flag). How about this? No tyre stops unless its under racing conditions, therefore nobody gets a free pit stop and nobody is confused. Teams also wouldn't pit far to early and try and make their tyres last from then on. Very simple, even the dumbest F1 fan could understand that rule.
cosmin77sin
cosmin77sin 2 miesięcy temu
@MrSniperfox29 the strategies the teams use are when to pit and on which tires. What are you on about? The fastest tires don't always last enough, even for a 2 stop. A lot of overtaking happens during the pits or is forced by under/over cuts of other drivers on different strategies. At this point I'm just explaining F1 to you.
MrSniperfox29
MrSniperfox29 2 miesięcy temu
cosmin77sin that would not lead to different strategies everyone would two stop on the fastest tyres
cosmin77sin
cosmin77sin 2 miesięcy temu
@MrSniperfox29 they have to because no tire would last an entire race 100% even if they would be allowed. My point is let them race, go full blast when they can instead of seeing Hamilton preserve his tires for half the race. The more varied the strategies can be, the more mixed the grid will get throughout the race.
MrSniperfox29
MrSniperfox29 2 miesięcy temu
@cosmin77sin You realise that they pick other tyres because they HAVE to, you literally said any tyre type.
beermanuk
beermanuk 2 miesięcy temu
This happened to Button years ago in Monaco, he was catching at a rate of knots as everyone's tires had gone off, he was on a fresh(er) set. Race red flagged and everyone changed tires basically for free. It was a shitty rule then and still is, no idea why it wasn't looked into at the time.
Jamsie
Jamsie 2 miesięcy temu
when the rules go against you, dont complain afterwards, this should of been addressed before the season started. when the race started, you know what rules you are racing by
My Wife Hates This Car
My Wife Hates This Car 2 miesięcy temu
Well Stroll has to do what he has to do in order to keep a seat with his Dad's team and prove that he's not just on the grid because his Daddy's a rich man.
My Wife Hates This Car
My Wife Hates This Car 2 miesięcy temu
@Tushar V I'm sure Mr.Stroll has paid you a lot of money to comment this, but I'm afraid you're wrong. He's there because of his money, and while he's won lower formulae it doesn't always translate to being a good driver. As for Albon, he hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip to Verstappen. Horner has even admitted as much.
Tushar V
Tushar V 2 miesięcy temu
That's just a stupid statement at this point because Stroll actually does pretty well nowadays. Being consistent, not making big mistakes, taking the opportunities given to him. And he has a very good and experienced teammate but qualifying and race results are close and go either way, so he does make a lot out of his car. And compared to drivers like Albon or Bottas who are nowhere near the level of their teammate, Stroll is improving while those 2 just continue going further behind their teammate.
J T
J T 2 miesięcy temu
Are sky aware that there are other drivers?
Harry Townend
Harry Townend 2 miesięcy temu
J T Sky presenters are biased always have been they hate Mercedes love Red Bull and McLaren
Billy Fletcher Iracing
Billy Fletcher Iracing 2 miesięcy temu
That’s a really good point that I didn’t think about during the race, a very fair one at that. As he said, you have literally gained 24 odd seconds by doing absolutely nothing.
padoosh28
padoosh28 2 miesięcy temu
Mandatory means mandatory, should be yooken under race conditions not red flag, stroll should've still had to come in regardless, poor show
MrSniperfox29
MrSniperfox29 2 miesięcy temu
Actually there is no such ruling for a mandatory pitstop. There is a ruling that unless it is raining (in which case you could, hypothetically, do the entire race without stopping), you have to use two different compounds. By the letter of the law, Stroll did nothing wrong.
Peter Fowke
Peter Fowke 2 miesięcy temu
Well done for come number four at Italian Grand Prix 2020 Lando.
CraigUK37
CraigUK37 2 miesięcy temu
I didn't think the rule was you had to do a mandatory pit stop, I thought the rule was you had to use at least two different compounds over the race. Which Stroll did.
MrSniperfox29
MrSniperfox29 2 miesięcy temu
Indeed, but apparently Lando here (and a lot of the comments) are confused on that.
Kelly Halliday
Kelly Halliday 2 miesięcy temu
Lando defo deserves P3. Best start he’s had and defended brilliantly against Valtteri most of the race
Tushar V
Tushar V 2 miesięcy temu
Not really defended, more like the Mercedes just overheated behind the car and never could get close enough to pass.
Kobey Davidson
Kobey Davidson 2 miesięcy temu
He’s 100% right, everyone knows stroll shouldn’t be in F1. His dad literally had to buy him a team because even with all his money he couldn’t get a paid drive. He’s not good enough and this is exactly why Ocon and Hamilton have a point. F1 is no longer about talent, it’s about who brings the most money
Kobey Davidson
Kobey Davidson 2 miesięcy temu
@Tushar V Hulkenberg out qualified him twice in his return to F1 in silverstone. the team favours stroll on strategy all the time thats why he's finishing ahead of checo and Hulk in the race
Tushar V
Tushar V 2 miesięcy temu
That's just a stupid statement at this point because Stroll actually does pretty well nowadays. Being consistent, not making big mistakes, taking the opportunities given to him. And he has a very good and experienced teammate but qualifying and race results are close and go either way, so he does make a lot out of his car. And compared to drivers like Albon or Bottas who are nowhere near the level of their teammate, Stroll is improving while those 2 just continue going further behind their teammate.
Zephyr 56
Zephyr 56 2 miesięcy temu
should be parc ferme
S Healey
S Healey 2 miesięcy temu
Well said Lando, totally with you on this one.
Dean Gibson
Dean Gibson 2 miesięcy temu
Boo hoo. Stroll got a free pit stop. Lando is one of my favourite drivers but Stroll gained less from the safety car and red flag then Gasly. Why are people keen to ban changing tyres at a red flag when the same people would probably say that putting under safety car is a good thing and making things more exciting.
wolfe1970
wolfe1970 2 miesięcy temu
100% Every driver should have to do a mandatory pit stop under normal racing conditions, but still a second and fourth is great for the team
Ryan Windridge
Ryan Windridge 2 miesięcy temu
The silver vodaphone mclaren hamilton days was the best they should run Mercedes engine as mclaren is Mercedes
Charles Mouse
Charles Mouse 2 miesięcy temu
What Lando is saying makes a good deal of sense and maybe this needs to be looked at for the future. But I am more interested in the rules being applied consistently than what they actually are, good or bad luck only adds interest. Sport is performed by people highly skilled in an otherwise worthless activity for entertainment. From the perspective of the spectators paying the bills all they really want is fairness of opportunity and for the people engaged in that sport to stick to what you are paying them to do when they are on your time.
Cap't Toffee
Cap't Toffee 2 miesięcy temu
That rule is garbage. Cost Jenson the win at Monaco in 2011 as well.
Stuart Anderson
Stuart Anderson 2 miesięcy temu
Yes new tyres on, the same compound forcing the mandatory stop.
Catherine Boyce
Catherine Boyce 2 miesięcy temu
CHEATED OUT OF P3
SIXITHS
SIXITHS 2 miesięcy temu
Norris had half of the race left to get past Stroll, and had DRS too. Sainz was behind Stroll on the restart, one place ahead of Norris, and yet he went on to finish ahead of Stroll and almost won the race... Lando has only himself to blame for not managing to find a way past the Racing Point, who have been slower then McLaren on the low downforce power tracks this year.
Pete Johnson
Pete Johnson 2 miesięcy temu
All the people claiming Stroll is just a pay driver because his dad is rich must be people who have never seen a proper pay driver. His dads wealth obviously helped him get to F1 and into a good team, but to be fair to the lad he's getting results. Pay drivers don't beat solid drivers like Perez. They wander around at the back of the grid and crash into stuff. Stroll is a decent talent.
Aaron-Noonan-Guy
Aaron-Noonan-Guy 2 miesięcy temu
I think they should only be allowed to change tyres on a red flag situation if its a change of weather. If its like it was today then they should have to stay on the same tyres.
Jake Aycicek
Jake Aycicek 2 miesięcy temu
When lando said stroll benefited from a free pitsop, I find those two presenters smirking at each other very interesting and would be very intrigued to why they were doing that. Perhaps they had the same opinion, perhaps it was growing discontent that stroll is just a lucky rich guy, or that saying those things against the son of a billionaire in a money based sport isn't the right thing to do.
Jake Aycicek
Jake Aycicek 2 miesięcy temu
@Tushar V good driver or bribing the fia copying last year's mercedes. I do accept he is lucky at times however if an f3 driver was in that car it would make them look good and you with ur small-mindedness would be arguing for them as well. He does not make a lot out of his car because that car was last year's championship winner. If anything he should be on the podium more often. Anyway that's a whole different argument. Thid argument is about how bribes affect decisions, if you don't know that then I can't argue with u.
Tushar V
Tushar V 2 miesięcy temu
@Jake Aycicek That's just a stupid statement at this point because Stroll actually does pretty well nowadays. Being consistent, not making big mistakes, taking the opportunities given to him. And he has a very good and experienced teammate but qualifying and race results are close and go either way, so he does make a lot out of his car. And compared to drivers like Albon or Bottas who are nowhere near the level of their teammate, Stroll is improving while those 2 just continue going further behind their teammate. Idk what more you want from him. People hating just to hate, he is bringing in the results and showing he is a good driver with a lot of potential. Why people discriminate against the richer? If Lando wasn't so rich, I'm sure other drivers would also have a chance at F1 or Mclaren.
Jake Aycicek
Jake Aycicek 2 miesięcy temu
@J T lance dad worth over 2 billion. I'm no mathematician but that's way more than triple.
J T
J T 2 miesięcy temu
Landos dad worth 300 million
Jake Aycicek
Jake Aycicek 2 miesięcy temu
@Pete Johnson they are miles rich ahead of any driver in the paddock. He got lucky but I understand that is needed in f1. It's my opinion mate. I think they were smirking a about this issue because they did it as lando was talking about stroll. Following fans knowing stroll intensively bought his way into an f1 seat, I would want to suggest that as a possibility.
The Real Alfalfa Male
The Real Alfalfa Male 2 miesięcy temu
Completely right. He also benefitted from that one time when his dad bought Formula 1 teams so his son could race.
Jonny Palfrey
Jonny Palfrey 2 miesięcy temu
@Miles Rosen that is true they were very circumstantial podiums but at the end of the day, he had the talent to be able to put the car in the right place where it counted, if he lacked talent he would have been trundling along at the back of the grid, or well off the pace in terms of the other cars around him
SAI3D
SAI3D 2 miesięcy temu
Miles Rosen you could also argue Gasly’s win was lucky
Miles Rosen
Miles Rosen 2 miesięcy temu
@Dom Thomas Two arguably VERY fortunate podiums. That Azerbaijan race was sheer madness, you'd have had a chance at decent points driving a Vauxhall Astra around with some luck. But I agree that he has had a reasonably strong year
Dom Thomas
Dom Thomas 2 miesięcy temu
I think he’s proved he’s worthy of being on the grid, he’s usually one of the best starters in races and now has 2 podiums to his name. But I guess people just love jumping on the hating on stroll bandwagon.
Zero Ninety
Zero Ninety 2 miesięcy temu
@onkouth His lack of talent prevented him from winning.
Omar HASSAN
Omar HASSAN 2 miesięcy temu
Both Williams have beaten the Ferrari 🤣
EW Car Racing
EW Car Racing 2 miesięcy temu
Omar HASSAN and red bull
Regan Louise
Regan Louise 2 miesięcy temu
Totally agree with Lando here
Chris Kinsman
Chris Kinsman 2 miesięcy temu
The issue is that if McClaren didn't double stack and decided to keep Norris out, similar to Racing Point, he'd have benefited from a red flag too. Racing Point were initially wanting Stroll to stay out and pitted into a pocket of clear air similar to Red Bull and Max earlier in the season (Hungary, I think? Correct me if I'm wrong) but then LeClerc had his horrific crash at parabolica and the rest is history. TL;DR: It's only a stupid rule if you don't get an advantage from it. We were in the mad situation where we had 2 safety car incidents within 2 laps
Michal Lacki
Michal Lacki 2 miesięcy temu
Absolutely agree
Sinking
Sinking 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll also cut the chicane and got away with that bullshit. Should have been Lando P3.
EMX G
EMX G 2 miesięcy temu
Without red flag pit stops it would’ve been a mclaren 1,2
Paul
Paul 2 miesięcy temu
Perhaps. Stroll and Hamilton would have dropped back obviously. Its just Gasly that might have got in their way. He benefited from switching from hards to mediums though I think under red flag. Would have been interesting to see McLaren 1,2 again haha.
Joe Morris
Joe Morris 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll should be able to change tyres but should have to take a 5 second stop go so lando would get the poduim
Oliver Court
Oliver Court 2 miesięcy temu
Completely agree with him.
Ruth Gibbons
Ruth Gibbons 2 miesięcy temu
I think like at the end of the race you should not be allowed to touch the car unless it would be dangerous not to fix something upon the restart. Lando is perfectly justified in his frustration
George Ng-Bryson
George Ng-Bryson 2 miesięcy temu
Ok 1. I'm pleased for stroll,. I think he'd better than many give him credit for and yes he may have lucked into a podium today but still I'm pleased for him. Now having said that 2. Fully agree with lando the rule is stupid. Why are any adjustments allowed to be made to the car, is it because of safety concerns with standing starts on old tyres?
Adam Howitt
Adam Howitt 2 miesięcy temu
The rules regarding the mandatory 2 different compounds should altered to having to use 2 different compounds in at least one pit stop, or something like that
Adam Kempster
Adam Kempster 2 miesięcy temu
I agree stroll should still have to pit after the restart.
David S
David S 2 miesięcy temu
He's not asking for Stroll to be demoted, he's pointing out a very obvious issue with the rule. Clearly we can't (and shouldn't) legislate against all good fortune, but arbitrarily allowing drivers who haven't yet pitted to benefit from a red flag at the expense of those who have already pitted makes no sense. Should drivers stay out as long as possible on crappy tires hoping someone sprays their car across the track? Or should they race normally, and if there has to be a stoppage, then it's a proper stoppage for everyone.
eamoman651
eamoman651 2 miesięcy temu
Lando is spot on..
Jay Cee
Jay Cee 2 miesięcy temu
isn't the rule that it's a mandatory to make a pitstop during the race? there was 2 races and Stroll didn't pit.
Scott Beard
Scott Beard 2 miesięcy temu
No, the rule is that you have to run two different tyre compounds (if it's dry). The red flag rule should be changed to allow changes of tyre only to the same compound imo, would sort this out
OllieSutton
OllieSutton 2 miesięcy temu
The rules make little sense to me. A red flag is stopping the race so surely it should restart exactly as it was? Yes the pack would be bunched up more but you could get that from a safety car anyway
OrNoir
OrNoir 2 miesięcy temu
They should be allowed to change the tires during the stoppage on safety grounds (risk of old tires blowing out before they can pit on the restart), but it shouldn’t count as the mandatory stop, for sure. As it is the rule rewards being dopey like RP were and punishes being proactive with strategy.
Paul
Paul 2 miesięcy temu
Not really though. For safety reasons work can be done on cars after a red flag, and rightfully so. Tbh the "gamey" rule here is the fact drivers NEED to use two different compounds. There is absolutely no reason for this rule other than to add to the spectacle and strategy. I dont mind this rule though as it works. Imo, work on cars, including tyres, should remain completely fair game after a red flag, but if they want a rule to negate what happened today, then I'd say any tyre switch during a red flag should not count towards a second tyre compound. This would mean Stroll would still have to pit; it would shaft his race strategy, rather than benefiting him but oh well.
AD O6
AD O6 2 miesięcy temu
Should’ve been a McLaren 1-2
AD O6
AD O6 2 miesięcy temu
Harry Townend well Hamilton’s team bottled it for him and McLaren did alright deserved it
Harry Townend
Harry Townend 2 miesięcy temu
AD O6 I certainly did watch the race and the Mclarens were just not good enough if that had been Hamilton in second place in a mclaren he would have definitely won.
AD O6
AD O6 2 miesięcy temu
Harry Townend they were Pierre and lance were lucky you clearly didn’t see the race
Harry Townend
Harry Townend 2 miesięcy temu
But it wasn’t they were not good enough
Blue Vase Conspiracy
Blue Vase Conspiracy 2 miesięcy temu
*masked pillocks.*
George_Gamez
George_Gamez 2 miesięcy temu
500'th like
Max G
Max G 2 miesięcy temu
These rules have been on place for many years, yet something like that happens and the drivers cry
Patrick.
Patrick. 2 miesięcy temu
Because it’s Stroll. If Lando got a podium in similar circumstances we’d never hear the end of how amazing he is from the British reporters.
Mark Parry
Mark Parry 2 miesięcy temu
Just because they’ve been in place for years doesn’t mean the rule is right
XPRESS HEALTHCARE LTD
XPRESS HEALTHCARE LTD 2 miesięcy temu
So salty!!!
LOLZ LOLZ
LOLZ LOLZ 2 miesięcy temu
I agree with him, I already posted it in the hightlights thread but at the very least you shouldn't be able to change tyre compound during a red flag. Tyres yes, compound no.
oliver
oliver 2 miesięcy temu
They would have been on for a 1-2
jab al
jab al 2 miesięcy temu
The more some drivers complain about other drivers having a free stop under safety car etc, the more likely it'll be that the fia will ban tyre changes under safety car/vsc, now personally I think that'll ruin F1 as the whole idea of getting a cheat pit stop adds more excitement and throws a spanner in the works for the guys at the back of the grid sometimes 🙄
The_red_ barron
The_red_ barron 2 miesięcy temu
That sky presenter is so patronising.
Hi I'm Charlie
Hi I'm Charlie 2 miesięcy temu
"argy bargy" and "elbows out" well done lando u learned well
CeeStinah Music
CeeStinah Music 2 miesięcy temu
Sounds like he's learned off Matt Gallagher from WTF1 XD
Tak
Tak 2 miesięcy temu
If they keep gettinig the elbows out we might see some more 🅱️i🅱️lical scenes this weekend
RockPaperScissors
RockPaperScissors 2 miesięcy temu
Bottas needs to sharpen his elbows too and grow a pair.
PhoenixGT3
PhoenixGT3 2 miesięcy temu
When he consistently overfuels and sets up a switchback every three centimetres his training will be complete.
balf1111117373
balf1111117373 2 miesięcy temu
I thought he’s been playing the F1 game abit too much when he slammed his brakes on before the pit line
Moses Ade
Moses Ade 2 miesięcy temu
@Philip Waller nobody behind him not affecting anything
Philip Waller
Philip Waller 2 miesięcy temu
@Moses Ade remember at Silverstone this year Lewis locking up after the line?
Suicidal_Cookie
Suicidal_Cookie 2 miesięcy temu
@Moses Ade look at the whole situation
Moses Ade
Moses Ade 2 miesięcy temu
Bias stewards remember lewis in 2017 he got a penalty for that
Frank Smith
Frank Smith 2 miesięcy temu
Lando is spot on here, constructors should be able to do whatever they want during a red flag, change the tyres, adjust things, whatever. It just shouldn’t count as their mandatory stop
idh_ dutt
idh_ dutt 2 miesięcy temu
Lets just understand lando doesnt like the tyre change rule under red flag
Dodomando
Dodomando 2 miesięcy temu
I would go the other way and say the cars can not be adjusted under red flag unless it was involved in the accident that caused the red flag. Only thing they should be able to do is keep the engine going, put the tyre blankets on and keep the car from over heating
Tom Bell
Tom Bell 2 miesięcy temu
@KPack 93 I don't disagree with you. It would be fairer for everyone to pit at least once. Otherwise it would be a sprint race. However, in red flag conditions they still need to be able to change to any tyre. F1 is all about exploiting loop holes. There will always be winners and losers. Stroll managed to win this one.
KPack 93
KPack 93 2 miesięcy temu
@Tom Bell if they run out of a specific compound then they just dont get a free change of tyres or can swap to the partially used tyres of the same compound. I don't get why people are advocates for somebody getting to finish a race without ever pitting.
Tom Bell
Tom Bell 2 miesięcy temu
Also, a driver might have run out of a particular compound and so the rule must be, allowed to change to any.
galetaf
galetaf 2 miesięcy temu
100% honest 100% right
galetaf
galetaf 2 miesięcy temu
J T How? Lance basically got a free podium because he got no pit lane stops & still managed to get new tyres when the race was suspended. Lando would have gotten a podium if it wasn’t for that.
J T
J T 2 miesięcy temu
Comes across as a spolit brat
galetaf
galetaf 2 miesięcy temu
FallGuy1109 I wouldn’t
FallGuy1109
FallGuy1109 2 miesięcy temu
imagine if Lewis said this, everyone would be complaining.
Tobi Folayan
Tobi Folayan 2 miesięcy temu
I agree with him but imagine if Hamilton said this
Tobi Folayan
Tobi Folayan 2 miesięcy temu
Dr. Ellie Sattler I haven’t seen anyone else comment “Imagine if Lewis” before on any post and you’re acting like it’s the most common thing
Dr. Ellie Sattler
Dr. Ellie Sattler 2 miesięcy temu
@Tobi Folayan Lol wtf is wrong with you? I'm not crying about anything...I'm simply annoyed at seeing this kind of stupid argument constantly. I respect and like Lewis very much but I don't necessarily want everything to end up being about him or wade through incessant arguments from people who either love or hate him. These kinds of "Imagine if Lewis said/did this!" comments are just asking for a crapfest of haters and fans catfighting. This is about Lando
Tobi Folayan
Tobi Folayan 2 miesięcy temu
Dr. Ellie Sattler cry more
Dr. Ellie Sattler
Dr. Ellie Sattler 2 miesięcy temu
FFS why do people have to bring Lewis into everything? Just STOP!!!! It just causes arguments and has nothing to do with Lando's interview!
Mossy
Mossy 2 miesięcy temu
Yeh but I guess looking at it lando doesn’t get pole mainly every race
A M
A M 2 miesięcy temu
This is why modern day F1 fans are so ridiculous....this rule has been there for a long time and people win and lose from it. All of a sudden if Lando loses out now its an unfair rule. Now people are using their dislike for stroll to act as if Lando is not being a saw loser. The rules are the same for everyone. I bet you he wouldnt have that opinion if he was the one who benefited. And stroll took a risk by not pitting and luckily it paid off. I hate this having a favourite driver thing where we lose perspective.
Tushar V
Tushar V 2 miesięcy temu
@UTDspiritF1 Virk All he's saying is Lando wouldn't have complained if he was in Stroll's position and got a podium or won the race. People only complain when they lose out from it which is stupid because the rule is not inherently bad. It just means people win or lose. I mean people get an accelerated pit stop and get 10+ seconds advantage on others when pitting under safety car. Unfair for the people who just pitted before the safety car or people who passed the pit stop when the safety car came out. Why are people not crying about that? That's an unfair advantage.
UTDspiritF1 Virk
UTDspiritF1 Virk 2 miesięcy temu
Mate this is should not be there in the first place. I saw this in Baku and I hated it it should not be a mandiotory stop so stop thinking in your fairytale world where everyone supports lando because there have been other ppl saying to get rid of this rule from before. Especially when I saw it in Baku how some cars benefited
Stefan rhys
Stefan rhys 2 miesięcy temu
He’s not wrong. Stroll didn’t pit, and then gained places as other drivers did pit, then the red flag happens and he’s allowed to change tyres, and start ahead on the restart? That’s so wrong. A free pit stop for real
Karl
Karl 2 miesięcy temu
Only been that rule for 10years..now everyones bitching because RP exploited it
Ziggy Vertang
Ziggy Vertang 2 miesięcy temu
@George Bennett So many people are saying its the luck of F1...Um not its a loophole which in hindsight gives unfair advantage and its not a law of nature so it can just...you know...be changed for future races
George Bennett
George Bennett 2 miesięcy temu
​@Patrick7022 77 Gasly was lucky to pit at the time he did however, he still had to pit and lost time. Stroll didn't have to pit and didn't lose time, that's not luck it's a loophole that should be closed up
Patrick7022 77
Patrick7022 77 2 miesięcy temu
Stefan rhys I think it’s perfectly fair, luck is apart of f1. If stroll had to box, he’d go to the back of the grid which is even more unfair. People just want the rule changed now that lando has missed out imo
Rich
Rich 2 miesięcy temu
The whole point of that rule is that you don't get race restarts with people on completely different tyres! If there had just been a red flag in the middle of a pit window for example you would have half the cars on used tyres vs half on new. The guys on used tyres would be at a disadvantage because they didn't get the chance to pit before the flag came out. In this circumstance it was Stroll choosing to stay out under safety car then gaining an advantage through the red flag, which is where the complaint should really lie. At the end of the day the rules are what they are and it ended up a good race
Scott Beard
Scott Beard 2 miesięcy temu
I feel like the answer to this would be to allow tyre changes, but only to the same compound. Therefore if you had already changed compound, no problem, but if you had not you would still need to pit again regardless of the condition of the tyres in order to run both compounds
Rich
Rich 2 miesięcy temu
@SR1Records for sure the mandatory stop thing is an issue in this situation. I suppose it's just the luck of the racing gods playing again.
SR1Records
SR1Records 2 miesięcy temu
That's one way of looking at it - it's unfair for a car to miss their pit window and have to restart on older tyres compared to those that pitted. However... By being allowed to take your so called "mandatory" pit stop under a red flag and lose literally zero time gains a huge advantage! Much more advantage losing zero time for your pit stop that the disadvantage of restarting on older tyres because you didn't happen to pit yet. Ultimately, the timing sucked for Mclaren and worked perfectly for Alpha Tauri and Racing point.With Lewis's penalty it could (and probably should have been) a Mclaren 1 2.
Will Downes
Will Downes 2 miesięcy temu
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stu skivens
stu skivens 2 miesięcy temu
Like Vettel benefitted from a free pitstop in Monaco in 2011 when Hamilton crashed into Massa.
The Gooner 49
The Gooner 49 2 miesięcy temu
In 2011 it was an incident between Hamilton, Sutil, Alguersuari and Petrov that caused the red flag.
Keke Hilo
Keke Hilo 2 miesięcy temu
Let’s be honest if lando was in strolls shoes he wouldn’t have the same opinion.
TwoStone
TwoStone 2 miesięcy temu
Nicole that’s basically what i said lol
Nicole
Nicole 2 miesięcy temu
Actually he addressed that in an earlier interview with Will Buxton. Lando said something along the lines of "admittedly, if I had benefited from the rule today, I'd say it was the best rule ever...but really, regardless of whether I benefit from this rule in the future or not, I think they should change it."
TwoStone
TwoStone 2 miesięcy temu
of course he wouldn’t but it still stands it a stupid rule
Patrick.
Patrick. 2 miesięcy temu
So what? In Austria Norris benefited from Verstappen retiring, Hamilton and Albon crashing, and bad strategy from Racing Point to get a podium. He benefited from team orders, Perez hitting Albon, and Stroll hitting Ricciardo in Styria. He was behind Sainz the whole race in Britain until his puncture. Whiny brat is the luckiest driver on the grid.
Patrick.
Patrick. 2 miesięcy temu
LippyGames Wow what a brilliant argument, you refuted all of my points! Why can’t you accept that Lando has been insanely lucky this season?
LippyGames
LippyGames 2 miesięcy temu
You are clueless , just dont comment on anything to do with F1 in Future
007dunphy
007dunphy 2 miesięcy temu
1000% right they shouldn’t be allowed to touch the cars
Karl
Karl 2 miesięcy temu
@Aldo Gjipali but then people would just use 1 compound, or srop for 1 sec in thwir box and not change tires at all
wolfe1970
wolfe1970 2 miesięcy temu
F1 tires dont like to go through too many heat cycles, it would be unsafe to let them cool then heat again, 100% the teams should change their tires, but not count as a pit stop, every driver should do at least one pit stop under normal racing conditions
Patrick.
Patrick. 2 miesięcy temu
Aldo Gjipali McLaren and Renault were both faster than Racing Point in Silverstone and Spa, while Racing Point were better in Spain and Hungary. I don’t think it’s a crazy idea that Racing Point are behind on power circuits. And yeah qualifying is different to race pace, and RP all season long have had better qualifying pace than race pace. Unless you think Perez has somehow regressed massively this season the three cars are fairly similar in pace.
Aldo Gjipali
Aldo Gjipali 2 miesięcy temu
@Patrick. perez only finished behind stroll because of strategy. Just because McLaren were quicker in some Spa doesn't mean they are quicker in power circuits. Also race pace is different from quali
Patrick.
Patrick. 2 miesięcy temu
007dunphy Yes he gained time but not 25 seconds, and Norris and Bottas still had half the race to try and pass him. Instead, Stroll pulled ahead. For sure he was lucky, but Stroll was keeping pace with Sainz and pulling ahead of Norris. McLaren were faster than Racing Point all weekend. Gasly also changes tyres, from hards to mediums, under the red flag but nobody complains about that. Vettel and Kvyat were ‘lucky’ to get on the podium in Germany last year, Sainz and Gasly were lucky to get a podium in Brazil, Norris was insanely lucky in Austria. These things happen in F1.
veegtec
veegtec 2 miesięcy temu
well said Lando
Moses Ade
Moses Ade 2 miesięcy temu
Roles where reversed 👀
Matt Tarrant
Matt Tarrant 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll was a lucky boy
MOK
MOK 2 miesięcy temu
Benefitted, but everyone had the same opportunity. He and RacingPoint were just so incredibly lucky that the red flag came out at that point.
MOK
MOK 2 miesięcy temu
@Liam I wasn't...
Liam
Liam 2 miesięcy temu
@MOK I'm strictly on about McLaren...
MOK
MOK 2 miesięcy temu
@Liam Stroll benefitted...
Liam
Liam 2 miesięcy temu
How did they benefit? With the Lewis penalty McLaren were net 1 and 2. They then we're 6 and 7 on the red flag grid. Should've been a McLaren 1-2 today. But happy for Pierre, been one of the best on the grid this year.
UTDspiritF1 Virk
UTDspiritF1 Virk 2 miesięcy temu
But it is a free pit stop That shouldn’t be allowed
Peelioka
Peelioka 2 miesięcy temu
I'm not sure how people are defending this rule, it has always been a stupid rule and tends to crop up once a year, thats not exactly rare.
m p
m p 2 miesięcy temu
@SIXITHS you still haven't addressed my criticism. I'm saying allowing the mandatory pitstop during red flag is unfair. I don't know what you mean when u say racing point took a gamble waiting for safety car, most teams pitted during safety car like ur supposed to stroll was further down the midfield and was fortunate for the red flag, as it was quite unexpected. Kudos for racing point if this was their intention to hope for red flag, I and many others if you watch any of the sky pundits and most other comments believe it shouldn't count for the mandatory pitstop as it completely discredits every other team who have strategized well and pitted under safety car. Whether lando should of caught up or not, I don't really care because this is not what it's about, it's a silly rule
SIXITHS
SIXITHS 2 miesięcy temu
@m p So do you have a problem with all those who gain an advantage by pitting under a VSC or Safety Car? Racing Point took a gamble that there would be another saftey car, and it paid off. Crying about their good fortune when Lando had half a race to get past is pathetic. And it wasn't even close to _"like 30secs of race time"_ gained.
m p
m p 2 miesięcy temu
@SIXITHS this has nothing to do with what I've said I don't care whether lando overtook stroll or not. The issue is stroll being in that position in the first place. When McLaren strategized well and were running P2 and P3, it is unfair for stroll (or any other driver if in the same scenario) to get like 30secs of race time shaved off for not strategizing well and missing the pit window.
SIXITHS
SIXITHS 2 miesięcy temu
@m p Sainz was behind Stroll on the restart, yet managed to get past him and almost won the race. Lando was right behind Sainz on the restart, but couldn't find a way past with half the race left, DRS and against the Racing Point that has been slower then the McLaren on the low downforce power tracks this year. Lando only has himself to blame for not beating Lance Stroll.
m p
m p 2 miesięcy temu
@Moses Ade no they wouldn't the rule is objectively unfair, regardless of which driver
Lastname Firstname
Lastname Firstname 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll's dad needs to buy Sky Sports.
Swefgteedff T
Swefgteedff T 2 miesięcy temu
Lastname Firstname underrated comment
Khizer Ahmad
Khizer Ahmad 2 miesięcy temu
😂😂 Don't think he can buy out disney tho
Ziggy Vertang
Ziggy Vertang 2 miesięcy temu
Lando should have been on podium, stroll gained a huge advantage such a shame for Lando
Ziggy Vertang
Ziggy Vertang 2 miesięcy temu
@VPV Yes 100% I would be saying the same thing! It has nothing to do with being a driver fan but everything to do with being a fan of F1, My issue was this rule has given an unfair advantage has allowed someone onto the 3rd step and celebrate a podium I don’t think they should have deserved. It also meant that the driver who got P4 who should have got podium in my book couldn’t celebrate it, Now this isn’t just Lance vs Lando, lets say we add on 30secs for a pitstop to Lances time to bring in more or less inline with what everyone else had to do, that would place him P10 behind his team mate, so Perez, Kvyat, Ocon, Hamilton, Riccardo, Bottas and Norris have all received a position drop and less points then what they all deserved because of a rule which is pretty much overlooked until now and needs to be acknowledge and changed going forward.
Ziggy Vertang
Ziggy Vertang 2 miesięcy temu
@VPV I am not crying about it, the results are the results and its not like I am actively involved in the race they took a podium away from me :) but as a F1 fan not a driver fan what is wrong with admitting that another driver had significant advantage that gained them 30 or more seconds of advantage which drivers behind didn't have because of a rule which can easily be changed for future races?
Freya Robinson
Freya Robinson 2 miesięcy temu
VPV imagine being this immature
Danimal
Danimal 2 miesięcy temu
Totally agree with Lando the red flag is not a pit stop it’s RP’s fault they didn’t pit, it’s definitely a pooey rule and needs to be changed
stephen G
stephen G 2 miesięcy temu
@Garfie489 yes, baku 2017
Karl
Karl 2 miesięcy temu
Its not RP fault they didnt pit, they played the game and got lucky
OrNoir
OrNoir 2 miesięcy temu
Max G Oh yes they did; Monaco 2011. I’m honestly surprised the rule wasn’t changed after that race was ruined by this same rule.
999 Ali
999 Ali 2 miesięcy temu
Agree wot rules is rules. Bitch
Jake J
Jake J 2 miesięcy temu
Max G actually a lot of people, myself included... complained when seb got away with it at Monaco years ago when his tyres was finished near the end of the race. It shouldn’t be allowed.... the mandatory pit stop should be done at racing speed not for free under a red flag.
NTK 94
NTK 94 2 miesięcy temu
the thing is how often does a red flag come into effect no need to change the rules for a flag which is rarely waved
MrSniperfox29
MrSniperfox29 2 miesięcy temu
@Bizarre Bunny There is no such thing as a mandatory pit stop rule. The only "rule" is that you use two different compounds.
Bizarre Bunny
Bizarre Bunny 2 miesięcy temu
NTK 94 yeah it's rare but it does happen and drivers shouldn't just get to loophole the *mandatory* pitstop rule just because it doesn't happen often because on those rare occasions it does happen it's not really fair to the others
SuperSonic14
SuperSonic14 2 miesięcy temu
I totally agree. This rule is ridiculous, but I suppose the reason why it hasn't been scrapped is because Red Flags are uncommon.
Lastname Firstname
Lastname Firstname 2 miesięcy temu
He needs some milk
B Hombre
B Hombre 2 miesięcy temu
@Matt B Dude chill. Have some milk
Matt B
Matt B 2 miesięcy temu
No he doesn’t. Stop with the milk references.
MHI Odyssey
MHI Odyssey 2 miesięcy temu
Rules are the same for everyone.
MHI Odyssey
MHI Odyssey 2 miesięcy temu
@Drenwickification nope.
Drenwickification
Drenwickification 2 miesięcy temu
whats your point? doesn't mean it's not a dumb rule
Rafael Jandres
Rafael Jandres 2 miesięcy temu
Lando could have dome the same
therealjeagles
therealjeagles 2 miesięcy temu
@AshyKnees It's luck of the draw; RP went longer, it was their decision and it happened to work today. You win some, you lose some.
Billy Howe
Billy Howe 2 miesięcy temu
Rafael Jandres lando had already pitted under the first safety car whereas stroll didn’t, that’s the point
AshyKnees
AshyKnees 2 miesięcy temu
that isn't the point, Lando had already made his pit stop, and Stroll had his during the red flag so he didn't pause at any time during the race when everyone else did, and pit stops last about 15 seconds so, apart from Leclerc crashing, that is ultimately the only reason that Stroll is on the podium
Ash B
Ash B 2 miesięcy temu
Stroll gained an advantage from going off track on the restart. Bs poll for stroll
Jake Mason
Jake Mason 2 miesięcy temu
Patrick. No one calls him posh boy its daddys cash and also the difference is Norris is not a pay driver and his dad didnt buy a team
Moses Ade
Moses Ade 2 miesięcy temu
@mark bell he pitted under a safety car then red flag came for everyone
Jake Mason
Jake Mason 2 miesięcy temu
Patrick. Lol i was only jk. He doesnt need things made up, without the 2nd safety car Mclaren would have been 1-2 after Hamiltons penalty and could have held on, same points this ssn as stroll in a better car😂 i mean he was unfortunate not to podium cos of Strolls free pit and the 2nd safety car on pure pace
mark bell
mark bell 2 miesięcy temu
Ash B same with the podium he got for Williams
Moses Ade
Moses Ade 2 miesięcy temu
@James Digby because he could have won