Was Hamilton right to criticise race stewards, and who was at fault for his pre-race violation?

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2 miesięcy temu

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Lewis Hamilton suggested that race stewards were "trying to stop" him during his post race interview, following two 5-second penalties at the Russian Grand Prix. But was Lewis right to criticise the stewards, and who was at fault for his pre-race practice start position which resulted in his penalties? Johnny Herbert and Karun Chandhok discuss.
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Gregorio Spotti
Gregorio Spotti Miesiąc temu
Blessed
Sandra Lantau
Sandra Lantau Miesiąc temu
It would be wonderful if Sky Sports F1 can follow up with Johnny Herbert about why, as a Steward at Spa, he was fine with Charles Leclerc starting outside the designated practice start area. Incidentally, the Spa Director Note defined the practice start area much more explicitly (including a photo showing the marked are) than the Sochi Director Note
D B
D B Miesiąc temu
Love Jonny. But he has never been in Hamilton position and never will be. Since the this interview lots more have come out like M Salo joy in releasing Hamilton penalty to Finland tv. @stewards be clear.
Jack Travler
Jack Travler Miesiąc temu
rules are there for a reason
Steven Ratti
Steven Ratti Miesiąc temu
Maybe the stewards should get some training in how to do their jobs; from the way they treat Hamilton, it's pretty obvious they don't know what they are doing.
Barry O' Toole
Barry O' Toole Miesiąc temu
Lewis was at fault he should use common sense stopping on a slight bend with f1 cars exiting pits ready checking pedals steering wheel buttons maybe on team radio. Yes lewis did ask his team but he must have been IN DOUBT IF HE HAD TO ASK " THEM" !!!!
Roderiko Vena
Roderiko Vena Miesiąc temu
To me the stewards are just killing the sport 😞😞
mahbrum
mahbrum 2 miesięcy temu
Lewis has the right to complain, but he was in the wrong in this case. He went to far beyond the “safe” zone for his practice start. He’s got his own opinion whether he’s right or wrong. In this case Lewis was in the wrong. This was explained in a Mercedes team video interview with an off track member of the team.
Paulo Silva
Paulo Silva 2 miesięcy temu
The day before the practice started, it was clarified and made the rule which was the place to start practice and that is it and no other so you don't even have to ask and these two are two more stupid and LH was and signed this rule for that stop being stupid and partial
Blink Armada
Blink Armada 2 miesięcy temu
"daddy's money" trying real hard to make Lewis look bad.
Formaldehyde007
Formaldehyde007 2 miesięcy temu
If you run someone off the track, possibly causing tens or hundreds of thousands of damage, and completely ruining their race, the penalty is typically 5 seconds. If you make two practice starts contrary to the Stewards' notes the penalty is 10 seconds?
Formaldehyde007
Formaldehyde007 2 miesięcy temu
The part that you seem to be missing is that Hamilton would have had 10 driver points with 12 being a race ban. His two incidents with Albon are merited. And the one where he was supposedly going too fast under a yellow flag can be construed to be endangering others depending on the exact circumstances. But two points for missing that the pit lane was closed at Monza and now 2 points for making practice starts at the wrong place, the latter of which was apparently rescinded after the fact because someone finally showed some common sense? The FIA definitely needs to evaluate when the stewards can give out driver points. I am sure you all enjoy reading the minutiae for every race. But I seriously doubt that Lewis or any other driver does so. Someone on the team is likely responsible for that task with the job to speak up if the need ever arises. But this is 2 picayune rules violations in a row with the punishments typically reserved for quite serious safety violations. And this is why Hamilton may possibly feel the FIA is now out to get him, especially given his recent political statements.
Steve Bennett
Steve Bennett 2 miesięcy temu
F1 is owned by American company. So as with most American sports they look for artificial ways to turn it into a show. It is a sport not a show,
Steven Ratti
Steven Ratti Miesiąc temu
Apparently you don't know much about American sports.
Ken Kiria
Ken Kiria 2 miesięcy temu
You guys now look like utter idiots.
MovieBuff
MovieBuff 2 miesięcy temu
Every time I see a person wearing a mask, I realize how incapable people of this generation has become to recognize a rogue country. A rogue country which: - Creates a deadly virus and spreads it across the world through human carriers - Hides death toll numbers from WHO to let it spread - Sells (not donates) faulty medical equipment to countries, putting the lives of its frontline doctors in danger When the whole world is fighting coronavirus, it is: - Committing human right violations against its own citizens - Not letting Muslims to practice their religion - Bullying small countries - Encroaching on land and seas of neighboring countries - Stealing intellectual property - Arresting reporters and banning media - Trapping weak countries through high interest debt Are we all going to just witness this bully to dominate the whole world and do nothing. FOR HOW LONG????
Mike Brown
Mike Brown 2 miesięcy temu
Who cares, LH is never happy
Charles Mouse
Charles Mouse 2 miesięcy temu
That rather depends on the manner in which he did it: "Piss and moan, bloody stewards" or "Well them's the breaks, I must abide by their ruling even if I don't like it." No I don't know the details. The first F1 weekend in 30+ years I knew was on, could have watched, had nothing else to do, and yet I chose not to bother. I have no use for a Sky subscription... I'll make a final impassioned rant when Sky does it's next propaganda video and then I'm done. plpost.info/chat/ktS1iGazr3qQjoo/wideo.html Funny how many media outlets and established sports are struggling for viewers when circumstances should see ratings booming.
Yfffad Kcud
Yfffad Kcud 2 miesięcy temu
Remember this every one of of us. In the Christian faith we are instructed by the only living God and Saviour Jesus Christ. In the book of Romans 12.19 King James Bible Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord
Ryan
Ryan 2 miesięcy temu
the world revolves around Lewis, when he isn't getting gifted a win, he throws his dummy out of the cot
Violet VCH
Violet VCH 2 miesięcy temu
I wonder what would have happened if V Botta’s swearing words on air was done by Lewis Hamilton? They Formula 1 and the haters would have torn him apart, what do you think 🤔
Tim Capstick
Tim Capstick 2 miesięcy temu
No
Colin Gathercole
Colin Gathercole 2 miesięcy temu
All hail Hamilton
James Glen
James Glen 2 miesięcy temu
Johnny Herbert made a bit of a tit of himself then doubled down. I ask for an icecream I am not questioning it in some sorta sherlock holmesy mannor
Airwane
Airwane 2 miesięcy temu
SKy is bias watch this video plpost.info/chat/3dnKdmO4sJCMa4Y/wideo.html it explain MUCH better
ExSapper Madman
ExSapper Madman 2 miesięcy temu
Of course he was, they rescinded his penalty points.......Hes done that exact same thing 1000 times on other circuits.......
Yingxun Zhou
Yingxun Zhou 2 miesięcy temu
So where in the rule book says, 2*5 seconds in race penalty for sth you did pre-race?
Yvonne Pingleton
Yvonne Pingleton 2 miesięcy temu
WE ARE WATCHING YOU FIA...
Yvonne Pingleton
Yvonne Pingleton 2 miesięcy temu
Bottes. Won by default... A couple of weeks before Gasely, won by default. FIA literally took what was Hamiltons. Can't beat um cheat um...
Yvonne Pingleton
Yvonne Pingleton 2 miesięcy temu
Ferrari always gets away with rule breaking. Favoritism can give you points, and wins. They cheated for a whole year. Shameful...
Yvonne Pingleton
Yvonne Pingleton 2 miesięcy temu
What was Hamilton doing farting around before the race. Maybe he should be reading the rule book instead.
David Skjaerpe
David Skjaerpe 2 miesięcy temu
To be honest, damn bad choice by the whole team involved; but LH is lucky they changed their mind and did not give him points on super licence. It’s sad LH kept on being angry for the period he did; and his statement were just way off target. He and his team screwed up - take it like a man and not a crybaby!
Michael Beckingham
Michael Beckingham 2 miesięcy temu
Of course they don't like the colour of his car who else had somebody looking in the rules to find nondescript rules that stops Lewis doing job look back at red car breaking all the rules last year where as Al there speed gone
Alex Mc Keown
Alex Mc Keown 2 miesięcy temu
Why does Lewis breath so heavily when he's driven what 50 meters from the pit box?
F. Joyeux
F. Joyeux 2 miesięcy temu
NO.
Maurice Dunmore
Maurice Dunmore 2 miesięcy temu
Why didn't he get a warning then 1 5 second penalty
Mark Gibbons
Mark Gibbons 2 miesięcy temu
If it take 20 minutes to decide if its a penalty or not it should just be a warning and then a clarification of the rules so if this happens again it would be a penalty and then know one can complain.
David Banks
David Banks 2 miesięcy temu
The stewards are at fault for not letting the drivers know where they can go and do there warmups
Garf 661
Garf 661 2 miesięcy temu
As always with Hamilton he can't take responsibility for his and the team's action. Attitude of a privileged life. I'm surprised he didn't play the race card like in the past.
conxteme
conxteme 2 miesięcy temu
The penalty was should have been before the start. They wanted to punish him on a track with 1 stop. They are after him.
Aishwarya Dasgupta
Aishwarya Dasgupta 2 miesięcy temu
Karun: Like Johnny and I, and Lewis, we've driven in MANY MANY race tracks around the world... F1 fans: ok Karun we believe you...
Nigel Wilson
Nigel Wilson 2 miesięcy temu
God dam it Hamilton now he's an expert on politics will call the desision racially motivated?
Sibusiso Gama
Sibusiso Gama 2 miesięcy temu
Lecrec did worse that took Stroll out and no penalty for him, they are trying by all means to stop Hamilton from breaking Schumacher record. They will celebrate if Max or Valtteri wins the championship but that won’t happen. You’ll see many penalties are coming for Lewis and he’s crime is to ask the world for justice against those who are being killed for being black, for equal opportunities, for protecting the environment, if we can’t bring such awareness in sport which other platform must be used then? The sport (F1 & FIA) needs serious transformation.
Bradley perry
Bradley perry 2 miesięcy temu
I
クレーア
クレーア 2 miesięcy temu
When compared with Leclerc , it sure seems FIA is trying to stop Lewis LoL
Dani Boglut
Dani Boglut 2 miesięcy temu
Yea penalise lewis for that but please keep grosjean on the race track i will DIE of boredom in every single f ing race of the next two upcoming dead-filled with dumb rules-seasons of F1 that are yet to come
Raquel Jimenez
Raquel Jimenez 2 miesięcy temu
OF COURSE THEY ARE!! Come on Now.
BLT
BLT 2 miesięcy temu
Even if penalty should be given, it should not be 5 seconds X 2. It's like someone drives dangerously, causing collision of 5 cars, and being given penalty X 5.
Jayden Glass
Jayden Glass 2 miesięcy temu
No he was not right to complain. Very clear, proved everyone right for hating him
Hotstepper
Hotstepper 2 miesięcy temu
These pundits are already distancing, remove the mask for goodness sake! No one wants to listen to people in mask, talk about pushing the agenda😏
John Atkins
John Atkins 2 miesięcy temu
Yes Lewis was absolutely right. Period. The stewards should go and take a slow boat to China. This is racing guys.. Are the stewards blind or what???
Nathan Sparks
Nathan Sparks 2 miesięcy temu
Just remember Hamilton got a 10s penalty for doing a practice start where it didn't cause any danger, but Vettel used his car as a weapon & got the same punishment 😂
Pepe Pombal
Pepe Pombal 2 miesięcy temu
Of course he was right!!!
Peter Harrison
Peter Harrison 2 miesięcy temu
I think that Lewis‘ “they are trying to stop me...” comments are more deep seated than just the practice start incident. The Breonna Taylor T-shirt issue and subsequent new rules on what to wear on the podium must have pissed him off given his leadership within F1 on raising racial injustice awareness. Like others have said, watch him come back even more determined...
Noah Skerman
Noah Skerman 2 miesięcy temu
yes! they purposefully took 40 minutes to punish him just so the punishment would have to be an in race stop and go, its disgusting
Martin Duggan
Martin Duggan 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton greaf winner but bad loser
Michael Peters Fenwicks
Michael Peters Fenwicks 2 miesięcy temu
These ridiculous rules are killing F1
Ravi Acharya
Ravi Acharya 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton has to grow up. The element of maturity the hallmark quality is missing totally. Cry baby!
A Bains
A Bains 2 miesięcy temu
Lecrec move was way more dangerous 1. Driving without seat belt Spain 2. Leaving no space to Hamilton monza 3. Pit maneuver on stroll
y5e
y5e 2 miesięcy temu
How many penalty points were given in last weeks crash?
Daniel Robinson
Daniel Robinson 2 miesięcy temu
These guys ain't got a clue what did you ever do in f1 karun get your head out the stewards ass something smells here and it's bulleshit call it how it us unfair pen ham already at a disadvantage at start of the race anyway we all know ham comes back stronger next race
Trevor Bailey
Trevor Bailey 2 miesięcy temu
Why isn't there a line indicating the limit to the area to be used , one thing gor shore the regulating or memo didn't indicate how far you are allowed and as the team radio says suggested he should leave room for csrs going by which he did. This pundit is saying lewis no you can't go that far in nonsense because there was no such rule the stewarts decision was fully with an agender , if anything this should have been a fine for the team inability to advise there driver in a more discretionary decision. In the end if the rule was clear it wouldn't have been broken , and the harsh treatment imo was a attempt with intent. The team radio we just heard i am shore the Stewart's also listen to and there was no intent from Lewis to break or ignore a unknown rule. Pit entry has a line for speed restriction how many times as any driver broke that and what was the stewarts verdict and penalty towards that driver in a on going race.🤔 justification was not proven this is like VAR , were is the line!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Filthy Rethuglicans
Filthy Rethuglicans 2 miesięcy temu
He's been a whiner for his entire career. why would he change?
Dean W
Dean W 2 miesięcy temu
This race & Monza the team gave the go ahead. Hence it is not Hamilton's fault its Mercedes!
jason bell
jason bell 2 miesięcy temu
How doe the other drivers feel knowing they are getting help from the stewards ? There will never be another Lewis Hamilton and on a race day he would have more than likely set a record’ it looks awful it’s like petty crap after petty crap , another thing I have noticed when Lewis is fighting back through the field no one has an incident at all it’s like the slow down and drive so good, but when Lewis is leading 5 seconds or greater you will get a safety car 99% of the time it’s strange but true, a safety car yesterday with him behind Max and Bottas , Pitt new mediums 10 laps to go Lewis would make short work of that race track and WIN !!!!👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
dan theman
dan theman 2 miesięcy temu
come on stewards.......just kick lewis in the balls before every race.........you know you want too ...!!!!!!!!!!!
Sheila Milne
Sheila Milne 2 miesięcy temu
Too bloody right he was right to challenge the stewards . They are not gods !! They just think they are . They were over zealous to say the least .
Nick Lins
Nick Lins 2 miesięcy temu
Stewards were wrong...hence the points being removed. But they cost us, the fans a very different race....and that what needs fixing
patrick Frawley
patrick Frawley 2 miesięcy temu
Lets face it if it had been Vettel or Leclerc they would have been let off with a slap on the wrist. One law for Lewis and a more lenient law for every one else. No wonder he gets pissed off.
Darran Ryan
Darran Ryan 2 miesięcy temu
They were trying ta take him out in qualifying I wasn't surprised ta see him get a penalty I actully thought he wouldn't finish the race..delighted he got third he is a great driver no matter the car
the one
the one 2 miesięcy temu
This is a massive joke, it's pathetic
memsybabe
memsybabe 2 miesięcy temu
It's like Lewis is trying to show himself to be so far above all the other drivers, he's coming up with ways of getting himself in trouble. Why did he need to do a practice start when no-one else did? Because he's Lewis Hamilton... He's starting to believe his own hype, and that never ends well.. Just drive your race, pick up your winners trophy, and go home. Don't give them a reason or opportunity to give you any penalty points.
Michael Thomas
Michael Thomas 2 miesięcy temu
The stewards are now the ones under the microscope, because everyone is going to watching them and their ongoing non-sensical decisions. If they continue to go after Mercedes and Hamilton, it will prove what Hamilton was implying is true.
Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell 2 miesięcy temu
Lewis acted like a spoiled brat during the awards ceremony Would not celebrate! He needs to learn to be as even tempered when things don’t go his way as he is when he wins. The word entitled comes to mind.
Paul
Paul 2 miesięcy temu
No, keep quiet establish the facts first before you rant, otherwise you look a petulant spoilt little brat.
Krp Krp
Krp Krp 2 miesięcy temu
2 X 5 seconds I can understand one for each infraction, but 2 points on his licence?? penalise him 3 times for 2 infractions. Questions are required, why the points if he has had 2 time penalties.
matismf
matismf 2 miesięcy temu
The real surprise is that "woke" F1 is actually holding their Preferred Species to the same rules that everyone else has to comply with!!!
Droopi Barows
Droopi Barows 2 miesięcy temu
there are some Trumps in the stewards
Peter Miechielssens
Peter Miechielssens 2 miesięcy temu
I find it at least remarkable that there were 2 big penalty's while there was nobody at risk and this on a moment - not in the race, practice or qualifying. I can´t remember we had something simular in the past??? The rules (art19) are not clear as well on that point. Was a slap on the wrist in the form of a reprimand then not the better solution? Changing the licence points to a fine is admitting their wrong doing. It took a long time to define what to do, but in that time, they didn´t bother to listen to the conversation between driver and team?? I feel we still miss Charly Whiting his experience and as a result there is a lot of inconsistency and lack of communication. Putting something on paper or walking it through in a driversmeeting makes a big difference. e.g. The lights on the safetycar in the last race - the importance of the indication Sc panels in Monza without a red light at the pitlane could have been better from an organisation point of view. Next to that in this race when Stroll was kicked out of the race by Leclerc there wasn´t even an investigation. I really (want to) believe the race stewards are doing there utmost to have an objective ruling. Having said all that, we can´t hide the fact there is a lack of experience and wouldn´t it be a shame a championship isn´t decided "on track" as a result
Andrés Padilla
Andrés Padilla 2 miesięcy temu
This time he lacked the “humbleness” he usually prides himself for. He has good points lead he has the championship and the records and the MONEY. Can he just be humble enough to accept his errors and not try to use us and media to drive his tantrums?
RawLu
RawLu 2 miesięcy temu
"MAYBE ITS BECAUSE I'M BLACK" - Yes, He did say that over penalties in the past so you know its even more of that Craziness now... They are walking on egg shells to not offend the poor Black American... #BLMisAmerican Americanization 24/7/365...
eddie taylour
eddie taylour 2 miesięcy temu
Old saying, if you cant do the time, dont do the crime. Just saying.
Max Goot
Max Goot 2 miesięcy temu
I can finally enjoy life because of, *p a i d t o b e h o m e .c o m*
ergun ardic
ergun ardic 2 miesięcy temu
The real problem is why is he not warned when he made the first mistake and waited when he done second time same mistake, then gave him penalty, thats the real question to ask...can skysport answer for that...
Leon Kotze
Leon Kotze 2 miesięcy temu
Racism...
Walter Stieger
Walter Stieger 2 miesięcy temu
So true, nothing else.
D Rod
D Rod 2 miesięcy temu
Stop crying like babies. F 1 is a big boys sport. He took out Albon twice. Lewis feels like he is entitled to win every race.
Ronin_ GThayc
Ronin_ GThayc 2 miesięcy temu
So let me get this right here ,he stopped in the pit lane exit and got 2 5 second penalties for his troubles .then went to the stewards after saying dont you know who I am and I'm black to boot ............
Malcolm Middleton
Malcolm Middleton 2 miesięcy temu
Like Schumacher he never thinks he should be criticised or penalised.
Phoebus Brave & Free
Phoebus Brave & Free 2 miesięcy temu
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Alex Tabara
Alex Tabara 2 miesięcy temu
The way Ricciardo acted when he got 5 seconds makes Lewis look like a crybaby.
TheGinger3
TheGinger3 2 miesięcy temu
Formula one is so corrupted! The stewards should be investigated. So should the FIA race director!
Bushwookiecentral
Bushwookiecentral 2 miesięcy temu
About time they let his poc privilege run out not even he is safe any more thank god
Mr e Mr e
Mr e Mr e 2 miesięcy temu
Keep fighting ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Donna Gray
Donna Gray 2 miesięcy temu
Clearly Lewis was right as the FIA rescinded the 2 points.
Adrian kim Leow
Adrian kim Leow 2 miesięcy temu
Hello Lewis, black man lives but please, black man do not rules. I do not see you as a winner.
TheNoviceSimRacer
TheNoviceSimRacer 2 miesięcy temu
He broke the sporting regulations about practice start so no he isn’t right to criticise, anyone with any sort of brain knows exactly what he is trying to say and it’s to do with his colour
Paul Kilburn
Paul Kilburn 2 miesięcy temu
Poor sportsman too big for his boots. I’m sick of the amateur media tiptoeing round him instead of challenging his attitude.
ben pasquale
ben pasquale 2 miesięcy temu
they could put a weight penalty on that car and it still wouldnt stop him....relax lewis its in the bag....its so easy its ridiculous
Jay Waters
Jay Waters 2 miesięcy temu
He is a little cry baby........
Devil maker
Devil maker 2 miesięcy temu
I Like how everyone saying Leclerc should of got a penalty when what happened were just a racing incident even the commentators said so. It’s obvious that it were and Hamilton getting the penalty is fair in my opinion he did break the rules twice so it’s what you get. I guess the hardcore fans of Hamilton just don’t like facing the truth. Let’s face it he probably will get a race ban this season which it would be funny if Botas did take his world champions title this year and I am also British and want that to happen! Make the sport good again
ARNAV
ARNAV 2 miesięcy temu
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