What made Michael Schumacher so special? | Schumacher Memories

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ZX R-CADE
ZX R-CADE 19 dni temu
I'll tell you what made the great Michael Schumacher so special not only was he guided by the right sort of people through his career such as Jochen Mass and Willi Weber Michael also collected to right sort of people to build a powerful team Ross Brawn and Jean Todt are just a few among the famous names Michael brought to Ferrari and also most importantly Michael Schumacher raced against 13 different world champions and he beat them all whether it be in the race or the world title and most of the time 9 times out of 10 Michael was beating his opponents in inferior cars which made him even greater Michael Schumacher is without question the greatest driver in motorsports history even better than the great Fangio, the late great Jim Clark and the great Sir Stirling Moss who were also true legends due to how they achieved their successes but Michael did it better than every other driver past present and future There will be no other driver like Michael Schumacher and he will always be my hero
Devon Hall
Devon Hall 23 dni temu
You just cannot compare Michael's achievements to Hamilton's achievements simply because Lewis hasn't been challenged hard I'm sorry but it's true that's my opinion just is
Wing Zero
Wing Zero 23 dni temu
The GOAT with senna.
Nathan James
Nathan James 26 dni temu
Lewis will never be as good as Michael
MrThrash43
MrThrash43 29 dni temu
This wen f1 was worth watching v10s and this legendary driver
Auto Sportivo Bedford
Auto Sportivo Bedford Miesiąc temu
Please get better Micheal we all love you 🙏
Jake Nugent
Jake Nugent Miesiąc temu
Lewis is a very good driver, but shumi is the greatest of all time, you changed the sport for the better and there is no comparison between them
BENBEN
BENBEN Miesiąc temu
He is a Goat, same like Jordan, you have to remember - he had to retire to make f1 competitive again...
MattyH1812
MattyH1812 2 miesięcy temu
What sets Michael apart for me is the fact he went to teams that were not front running teams and did great things there - Jordan were backmarkers and he qualified 6th, Benetton were not a front running team when he joined and he won 2 titles there, Ferrari were nothing and he turned them around If you want to make the comparison to Hamilton, he went straight into an extremely competitive McLaren in 07-12 and a Mercedes in 13 that was 2nd best to the Red Bull that year, and then obviously the Mercedes since 14 has been all conquering, he therefore doesn’t deserve the same recognition in my opinion, especially when you consider his attitude as well, he doesn’t behave like a champion, he’s been in a top team for 14 years and yet he whines and always finds something else to blame when he finishes 3rd instead of acting with dignity, champions don’t do that
Peter benn pan
Peter benn pan 2 miesięcy temu
Lewis Hamilton is near to beating MS records hope Lewis gets the respect he does just like MS has
DW
DW 2 miesięcy temu
I hope Michael shows up to the grand prix where Lewis beats his record of grand prix wins, to congratulate him, that would be a memorable moment in F1 history.
30 Century Man
30 Century Man 2 miesięcy temu
"What made Michael Schmacher so special?" He cheated.
Michael King
Michael King 2 miesięcy temu
Oh shut up! He turned Ferrari into a dominating force. He is also partly credited with helping Mercedes be where they are now. Just ask Ross Brawn and Toto Wolff. Michael was a supreme driver. Senna also did questionable things, so did Prost. Pathetic too not give him any credit at all. Oh and Adelaide 1994 was Hill's fault. He made a stupid move.
Abdul - Rahman Rizwan
Abdul - Rahman Rizwan 2 miesięcy temu
Keep fighting Michael. I hope we get to see you back in public again.
Mandeep Reehal
Mandeep Reehal 2 miesięcy temu
Drivers today moan too much, I remember clearly Schumi never had a go at the team he was a leader.
Sean Johal
Sean Johal 2 miesięcy temu
With Michael it was always WE and never I. Win together, lose together. Schumi leap!
Jack Shields
Jack Shields 2 miesięcy temu
Lewis is nowhere near as good as him
RSA DYNAMICS
RSA DYNAMICS 2 miesięcy temu
I hope he gets well and we see him attend F1 races soon
- Kallz -
- Kallz - 2 miesięcy temu
With all due respect to Micheal Schumacher Lewis Hamilton is now the GOAT 🐐🇬🇧
derryboyo
derryboyo 2 miesięcy temu
Nowhere near schumi you idiot
DubSun33
DubSun33 2 miesięcy temu
What made him special, was his complete lack of morals and win at all costs attitude. Illegal driver aids in the '94 Benetton, DQ'd from the Belgium race after illegal skidblock same year. No wonder he reneged on both Jordan and Sauber in order to stay with Benetton and race fixer Briatore. Deliberate crash into Hill in '95. Attempted the same trick in '97 but failed and DQ'd for the whole season. 10 years at Ferarri with strict instructions, ie illegal team orders, for his 'team mates' that they give up their superior positions to Schumacher. Taking these details into account, it makes a mockery of his racing records. In any case, Hamilton will legally rewrite all the records.
Leebo88
Leebo88 2 miesięcy temu
Its a disgrace to the sports history and culture that someone like Lewis Hamilton can equal or beat Michael's records, he may beat his records but he will never be Schumacher and nothing but a paper champion, to win 6 titles in the Mercedes has not been an achievment at all, the competition Hamilton has faced is miniscule compared to what Michael had in his career, paper champion vs a real champion, no comparison
ajcardiff1
ajcardiff1 2 miesięcy temu
@Leebo88 I hear the scraping sound of someone moving the goalposts.... Which shows more ability: shaping a team around yourself (with the help of Brawn, Byrne and Todt), or just beating everyone? When Schumacher didn't have preferential treatment over his teammates, they beat him. And Hamilton is clearly capable of developing a car, as evidenced by Mercedes's continued dominance through a rule change and the fact that every car he has driven has got better throughout the season. What exactly do you mean by, 'someone like Lewis Hamilton'?
Leebo88
Leebo88 2 miesięcy temu
@ajcardiff1 Totally different thought aint it, when you build a team up from scratch and you become the leader you have the say in how things go, when you walk into an OP Mercedes and did nothing to build the team up... sorry isnt the same for me.. big difference in someone who worked for his dominant car to someone who lucked into it
ajcardiff1
ajcardiff1 2 miesięcy temu
How many of Schumacher's teammates were top level? How many were world champions? How many were allowed to beat him? How many were contractually obliged to move over for him? "...to win 6 titles in the Mercedes has not been an achievment [sic] at all" If that were true, Schumacher winning those titles in those Ferraris with a teammate that was forced to hand him points, even when he had outperformed him, is no achievement whatsoever.
Leebo88
Leebo88 2 miesięcy temu
@bsrlbck2013 Maybe not to some people but to me it makes a massive bit of difference :) the record books for me end in 2014 when the sport became a farce
Chris Kench
Chris Kench 2 miesięcy temu
Get well soon Micheal, so glad I saw him race at silverstone 2004/5, was the person I supported when I 1st started watching, now lando
Adam Grimsley
Adam Grimsley 2 miesięcy temu
When Hamilton surpasses Schumacher's record, he will be regarded as the greatest on paper....but I don't think many will look back and say wow... what a racer. Schumacher inspires a hundred great memories.
Leebo88
Leebo88 2 miesięcy temu
Totally true.. paper champion.. nothing more, Michael won our hearts
Nicholas Massey
Nicholas Massey 2 miesięcy temu
Big fat cheat..
mark taylor
mark taylor 2 miesięcy temu
I was never a Michael Schumacher fan but i never didn't like Michael and i was actually upset when he had his accident. All the best to him and his family.
J M
J M 2 miesięcy temu
I have never seen Lewis put a car on the edge in a way Ayrton and Micheal have and I have never seen Lewis have to fight as hard as those two had. The rules have been created in a way that have allowed mercedes to dominate as long as they have done. Hamilton is awesome but is he really as good as the other greats?
Alan Mckeown
Alan Mckeown 2 miesięcy temu
He was a cheat and would have took his granny out to gain a point
Ibrahim Rahman
Ibrahim Rahman 2 miesięcy temu
He ain’t special he’s a cheat
Steve
Steve 2 miesięcy temu
A true legend sadly we will not see him in public again , my only wish is that he can communicate with his family but i think even thats hopeful
Fruitichunes
Fruitichunes 2 miesięcy temu
By far the greatest f1 🏎 driver ever a true Goat!!!!!!
Manish Parmar
Manish Parmar 2 miesięcy temu
It's hard to watch F1 now knowing his health isn't good. I miss him not being around and to me, he will always be the greatest.
NottsKing Co
NottsKing Co 2 miesięcy temu
2:18 Thought that was Carole Baskin.
SPACE FUSION
SPACE FUSION 2 miesięcy temu
hes a cheat
G Mac
G Mac 2 miesięcy temu
The Red Barron
Sam Bowen
Sam Bowen 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton may one day eclipse Schumacher in terms of numbers, but micheal will always be streets ahead in terms of talent, Hamilton has never really had any opposition, the mercs have been bomb proof, put sebastian or max in one and they would wipe the floor with Lewis, but everyone else has had significantly disadvantaged cars. Micheal fought his way to the top, he jumped back to the bottom, then fought his way back to the top. When Lewis drives like Michael did in spain '96 then I will admit he has class, but until he stops pointing the finger over the radio when his tyres arent to his liking, I will not rate him in the same school as micheal, let alone the same class.
Sam Bowen
Sam Bowen 2 miesięcy temu
@Harry Whitecross I believe Micheal had a fair few duff ups over his career, lets not forget Damon Hill in '94, I'm not particularly interested in the rights and wrongs of it, but it was so close enough to go for low punches to get to the top, I cant remember the situation for 95 but I seem to remember it was much easier, 96 was a wash out except for Spain and Belgium, for '97, see '94 but insert a Villeneuve instead, and obviously it didn't work out that year, yes '98 and '99 were Hakkinens years, although that said it might have been a lot closer had he not bust his legs at Silverstone. 2000 he was clearly in front, '01 Coulthard gave a brave effort, I dont particularly rate Coulthard in the same way as Hakkinen, but he was an excellent #2 to him. In '03 Raikonnen was 3 points behind I think in the end and Montoya wasn't far behind that if I remember correctly, so with one or two different results things could gave been quite different, in '06 he was within a shout of an 8th championship against Alonso, It was obvious from all the fall out from the Alonso saga, that when he went to McLaren that he was promised then run of the team, even over a standing double world champion, and hes been privileged position ever since, when Button Had an equal car to him in Montreal in '11 he ran away from him, I think in 2018 yes Ferrari did get off to a better start and Merc new it, they managed to develop faster than Ferrari, and with a cheque book called Daimler it helps enormously, by mid season I dont think Ferrari had anything left up their sleeve, against what mercs had lined up, and in Germany I think it was that Ferrari cracked, Vettel made a stupid mistake and the dam was breached, Ferrari had nothing effective in the tanks, combined with Vettel trying to outdrive the car exposed their weakness. I will give them that they certainly paced their upgrades well over the course of the year from Mercedes.
Harry Whitecross
Harry Whitecross 2 miesięcy temu
@Sam Bowen other than hakkinen who did schumacher really fight? I believe hamilton raced against a lot of great drivers in their prime that were way better than the drivers schumi raced overall. You say Lewis hasn't had his "Spain 96" but there are plenty to choose, Britain 08. Everyone likes to say he has the best car, and yes he's been fortunate with his cars over the course of his career, but 2009 is plenty of evidence to prove he can perform in a weaker car. Also he matched alonso on his debut and ferrari was faster in 2018 and hamilton still won hands down
Sam Bowen
Sam Bowen 2 miesięcy temu
@Rockeye Tom Lewis is good, no doubt, you dont get to, and stay in F1 by luck alone, but tell me, who has been his competition in 6 championships? Mercs wont allow the team mate to fight, only once in the last 8 years and that was because lauda promised them both a championship back in 2012. On his day Vettel is world class, if he had a sid car (which hd hasn't for 5 years) I.e. a merc, his mentality would be astronomical, and he would go out and scour the field, but he has had 1) a lacklustre Ferrari to drive, and 2) a ferrari team around him which are famously temperamental, therefore his German temperament has suffered and hes made a series of idiotic blunders. as for Max he is tied into a Red Bull team who since Vettel left, keep producing great cars, but only get to the party just before last orders is called, so for the first half of the year is thrashing about in a car that is either solidly midfield, but on only a few occasions can muster up just enough to tuck in just behind the mercs, his drive in Brazil a couple of years ago was worthy of Schumacher in Spain, if he had a car to do that every weekend, he would he champion by now. As I said Lewis is good, but I could be good in a merc right now, especially if the rest of the field is kept out if the way for me. The person I really rate is Alonso. If you had a field of Mercs, with Alonso, Vettel, Verstappen, Perez, even Button racing in their prime , I think Alonso would come out ahead by a fraction, but it would be a battle Royale behind, what do you get from Lewis, hes either ahead and untouchable, or hes behind someone when he gets on the radio whinging about someone didn't put his favourite tyres on, or they should only have stopped when he says, or if he has a right paddy and just ignores the team like he did in Mexico when Risberg got ahead. Ges good, but sweet lord hes boring.
Rockeye Tom
Rockeye Tom 2 miesięcy temu
Absolute fcuking nonsense! You rate Vettel ahead of Lewis then claim Vettel hasn't provided any competition to Lewis haha what are you on about? Vettel has had the car to challenge Lewis in a few seasons during this era and he's nowhere near. And to say Max, a young 22 year old hot headed maniac would wipe the floor with Lewis, a 6 time world champion in his absolute prime is a complete and utter joke! I'm not arguing Schumi's greatness he was a winning machine but you seriously need to put some respect on Lewis's name. Any genuine F1 fan recognises his greatness.
Gottlieb Dee
Gottlieb Dee 2 miesięcy temu
JW gets triggered easily doesn't he? I think it's because he's the only real motorsport enthusiast here on this thread.
tubehows4life
tubehows4life 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton can take whatever records, he will still be inferior to the superior Schumacher.
tubehows4life
tubehows4life 2 miesięcy temu
@Corey Rod Brawn and Shovlin acknowledge that Schumacher was central to Merc's current success. Lewis doesn't build teams like that. If Lewis wins this WDC, that means 6 of his last WDCs rightly belong to Schumacher, with Schumacher on 13 and Lewis still on 1. And that is an accurate reflection on the difference in quality between the two.
Corey Rod
Corey Rod 2 miesięcy temu
Stop making excuses for the fact Hamilton is about to surpass him
Dr Goodnsexy
Dr Goodnsexy 2 miesięcy temu
Keep fighting legend💚
ItalianStallion
ItalianStallion 2 miesięcy temu
My dad used to tell me bed time stories of a young lad rising through the ranks of racing, to become a Ferrari driver and win championships, he told me you can do anything in this world if you put your mind to it.
Marty McFLY 1985
Marty McFLY 1985 2 miesięcy temu
Sebs leaving Ferrari a team he now has absolutely No control or No 1 Driver status at, But is he going to get even worse treatment at The Pink Merc for 3 years because its the Stroll Team and when your New Teammate is the Bosses Son , Seb ignoring Team Orders wether its MULTI 21 at Red Bull or Cutting Charles up in Brazil GP or ignoring Team Orders when Dani Ric was his Teammate at Red Bull Seb will have 3 years of Team focused on Lance Stroll Team Bosses Son than likes team built only around him Seb surly moving to The Pink Merc will work against Seb not for Seb
Nathan Sparks
Nathan Sparks 2 miesięcy temu
Is someone cutting onions 😥 Get well soon Micheal 🙌
Haytham Kenway
Haytham Kenway 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton will never compare. Never. Real F1 fans know that Schumacher is a completely next level.
Demonetised Sign
Demonetised Sign 2 miesięcy temu
Ikr
lee turton
lee turton 2 miesięcy temu
I remember when he rammed damon hill in Australia...never been so pissed watching f1...he was a genius though...same class as senna
lee turton
lee turton 2 miesięcy temu
@andrew jenner 😂
andrew jenner
andrew jenner 2 miesięcy temu
Could have been a champion stock car driver
Joe Sheppard
Joe Sheppard 2 miesięcy temu
It is a shame Michael isn't around to see Lewis break his records. To pass on the proverbial baton, so to speak.
Catherine Archer
Catherine Archer 2 miesięcy temu
@jastallion45 Were in my "stupid" comment did I suggest that Lewis isn't a good driver...
jastallion45
jastallion45 2 miesięcy temu
@Catherine Archer the stupidity of this comment. Do you think Mercedes, Ross, toto, paddy and all these senior leaders in f1 would waste time investing in Lewis if he weren't good. Records are there to be broken. Give credit to Lewis and Mercedes for breaking those records. Michael will forever be Michael nothing taken away from him.
Joe Sheppard
Joe Sheppard 2 miesięcy temu
@Catherine Archer Hamilton is at the very least as good as Schumacher. Besides, people won't forget. Only a fool would and a fool's opinion is irrelevant.
Catherine Archer
Catherine Archer 2 miesięcy temu
@Joe Sheppard I have nothing but respect for Lewis, however I cannot compare him to Schumacher. Surely records are to be broken by the best. Hamilton isn't better than him, but if he breaks his records people will forget just how good Schumacher was...
Joe Sheppard
Joe Sheppard 2 miesięcy temu
@Catherine Archer All great athletes understand records are there to be broken and they are able to appreciate other athlete's success, especially when it eclipses their own.
melvin
melvin 2 miesięcy temu
Always remembered never forgotten Get well soon legend 🙏🏿
Chris Fleming
Chris Fleming 2 miesięcy temu
I think after so many people supported him around the world there should be some kind of accurate update on his condition now be because after 7 years of keeping quiet it shows a lack of respect for the people who were and are his global fans. We just want to know is situation because we care.
Rockeye Tom
Rockeye Tom 2 miesięcy temu
Look it up there's a few reports giving an insight into his current condition. From what I've read it seems he is conscious but seemingly paralysed and not able to communicate. You can understand why the family want to hide him away because his current state is a million miles away from the champion everyone remembers.
andy kane
andy kane 2 miesięcy temu
What an excellent video thank you Martin
Ken May
Ken May 2 miesięcy temu
Absolutely no mention of his propensity to cheat,
Adam cocker
Adam cocker 2 miesięcy temu
@Catherine Archer really? When did Hamilton cheat exactly?
Catherine Archer
Catherine Archer 2 miesięcy temu
Yes because Lewis doesn't cheat...
You Like Cars
You Like Cars 2 miesięcy temu
Cheater or not once he closed that visor it was like Wolf chasing sheep Dedicated, Super fit, Mad fast and greatest respect for he’s team + Ferrari workforce’s that’s how Schumacher will be remembered period..
Mark Battison
Mark Battison 2 miesięcy temu
Yeah..... oh apart from the section where they take about him going over the line, show the clip of him hitting Hill and tell a story of him taking Derick Warwick out in Qualifying.
andrew jenner
andrew jenner 2 miesięcy temu
Let's brush that under the carpet
Fingers Titan
Fingers Titan 2 miesięcy temu
lololol... Even with a mask.. You can really see Ross with a HUGE smile thinking about Michael being chased down the pit lane by Derek.. lololol
paul godman
paul godman 2 miesięcy temu
the Australian gp with Damon Hill..........really it denied Damon A SECOND CHAMPIONSHIP if you delibrately drive in to someone thats ok ....methinks noy.....that also may have meant Williams were more likely to keep Damon so no MR SCHUMACHER A CHEAT he did the same to J Villeneuve and he got away with it with Damon ... NO he cheats not a good look
Kieran
Kieran 2 miesięcy temu
Jean Todts face when Luca throws his arm around him at the opening is priceless.
Rein Drescher
Rein Drescher 2 miesięcy temu
Let’s not forget why Mercedes is so strong in the last 5-6yrs. Michael was instrumental in building the team that is Mercedes Benz F1 today. #keepfightingmichael
M T
M T 2 miesięcy temu
Nonsense. How did Schumacher have anything to do with a Hybrid V6 Mercedes car that came 2 seasons after he left the sport? He left in 2012 and any driver input into the 2014 car clearly came from Hamilton and Rosberg. Also, how was he so instrumental when he was getting beaten 3 years in a row 0-3 to Rosberg?
Jovial Gent
Jovial Gent 2 miesięcy temu
There is no greatest of all time driver, greatest of their era, but not of all time! The evolution of motor racing is so quick that each generation of drivers are almost doing a different sport! There are, however, the obvious standouts in each era such as Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Hill, Senna, Schumacher, Maldonado, Alonso, Hamilton to name but a few! 🤔
Jovial Gent
Jovial Gent 2 miesięcy temu
@Lewis Taylor 😉🤫
Lewis Taylor
Lewis Taylor 2 miesięcy temu
I love how you slipped Maldonado in there
Rockeye Tom
Rockeye Tom 2 miesięcy temu
Completely agree, it's fun to compare drivers but ultimately the machinery they used is so different it's impossible to truly compare.
DAGATHire
DAGATHire 2 miesięcy temu
5:00 fair dues to lewis getting to that level and indeed he's going to break schumacher's record. but Brundle going down the greatest of all time rabbit hole, with hamilton's name on his lips? tut tut. that's pure british bias. Lewis will be up there, in the top ten. he's not touching the likes of schumacher and senna tho. And all because Lewis has never struggled. he's been in the fastest car almost his entire career and never had to really fight. And the few times he's been forced to fight. he LOST or gave up. Doesn't matter how many titles he wins in an unbeatable car. Winning in bad cars is what makes legends and the greatest of all time conversations.
derryboyo
derryboyo 2 miesięcy temu
Absolutely spot on, brundle is a real biased asshole. All the ex brit drivers seem to be jealous of schumi, maybe its because he wiped the floor with them even when he was a young cub who beat brundle when they were teamates. Nearly have to turn the tv off now as they are unbearable when they talk about lewis, who by the was is definitely a born racer but not in the same bracket as the top drivers of the past.
DAGATHire
DAGATHire 2 miesięcy temu
@Rob K Good job Robert. Sleep well
Rob K
Rob K 2 miesięcy temu
@DAGATHire Nice try...bored now...bye!
DAGATHire
DAGATHire 2 miesięcy temu
@Rob K there is no debate Robert. There is only opinion, and clearly you didn't read the fact that i clearly said "in my view" regarding Hamilton. Furthermore. It is indeed you who have engaged me, not the opposite. Indeed it's you who have resorted to childish nonsense. not the opposite. It is indeed you who are championing yourself as a master debater but, i guess it's through insults that debates are won in your world. Sorry to break it to you Rob, but you haven't debated anything. All you have done is consistently attack me rather than the topic at hand. Sorry to break it to you Robert. But that's not how debating works. But feel free to try again.
Rob K
Rob K 2 miesięcy temu
@DAGATHire Presumably reading is also beyond your abilities, I wrote that I had tried to treat you with intelligence, your subsequent replies proved you were lacking, I then proceeded to inform you of truth and fact ( another faculty of which you are bereft) your reply then was a non reply but your egos need to have the the last word, hence your "rhetorical " statement. My advice to you is not attempt to engage anyone in debate when you clearly ill equipped.
Giovanni Paolo Di Rollo
Giovanni Paolo Di Rollo 2 miesięcy temu
What a legend
tiktok toyatoya
tiktok toyatoya 2 miesięcy temu
🥺
Scott McKenzie
Scott McKenzie 2 miesięcy temu
It's such a shame that his records may fall to someone who's the polar opposite... constant whinging, no charisma, only interested in his agenda, only ever been in the best car... They shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath but history will only remember the numbers :(
iain mcIntosh
iain mcIntosh 2 miesięcy temu
@Melon623 well said 👍
Melon623
Melon623 2 miesięcy temu
Douchy and ignorant comment and you know it. Which other driver is interested in agenda's other than theirs anyway. Make proper criticisms instead of schoolgirl gossipy comments.
andrew jenner
andrew jenner 2 miesięcy temu
Could have been a champion stock car driver
iain mcIntosh
iain mcIntosh 2 miesięcy temu
Utter nonsense
Ashley
Ashley 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton doesn't crash into rivals on purpose to steal world titles so suppose that's another way they're opposite lol
Mrcento
Mrcento 2 miesięcy temu
His consistency and racecraft. I was a McLaren/Hakkinen fan but watching the old races back, i realised why i disliked Schumacher so much at the time. He was incredible. An absolute racing machine. It was very frustrating supporting the other side 😂 It didn't seem to matter the track, the conditions or how the race unfolded. He was there. He always found a way to bring himself into contention, even if the car was slow, he could hang on in a way nobody else could and would always capitalise if things so much as looked like they could fall his way. He could be 15th, a second a lap slower than Hakkinen 10 laps in and you still couldn't count him out from being a threat later on. He made things happen in a way nobody else could.
True Ultimagod
True Ultimagod 2 miesięcy temu
@jastallion45 Not the same thing mate, Ferrari were not as dominant a car as Mercedes are now. bar 2002 and 2004. What we are talking about here is even Michael had the slower package he was always there pestering annoying outwitting his opponents, doing qualy laps every single lap, his talent is out of this world. Hamilton is an incredible talent dare i say top 5 of all time, but he isn't as good as that. He has had easily the best car for 7 years.
jastallion45
jastallion45 2 miesięcy temu
Man those days supporting McLaren wheb ferrari were so relentless.. Incredible team ferrari back then. Now Mercedes is doing that.
Mattnew Foxred
Mattnew Foxred 2 miesięcy temu
One of the worlds most succesful mugs in any discipline period. Truly hilarious that any and all records he holds are getting toppled by a black man. A respectful and damn right worthy one at that!
Jeevan Gill
Jeevan Gill 2 miesięcy temu
The only mug is you bringing race into something about motorsport.
Vic
Vic 2 miesięcy temu
That his teammates weren’t allowed to beat him ?
Adam
Adam 2 miesięcy temu
@Jeevan Gill oh well that's boring lol
Jeevan Gill
Jeevan Gill 2 miesięcy temu
@Adam No he was on the F1 channels podcast
Vic
Vic 2 miesięcy temu
terkmadugga ....Not so. We’ve all seen how Barrichello and Ervine , for instance, were made to hand their places to him when they were in front. I remember when Rubens out qualified him one time and Schumacher decided to take Rubens car for the race !! Ferrari allowed this because they were totally behind Schumacher. He only got his first title in 1994 because he deliberately crashed into Hill and the Benneton team were known to be cheating with an illegal car. Many of his “wins” were handed to him and are therefore not genuine. The list goes on . I would not put him in the top ten. 🧐
Adam
Adam 2 miesięcy temu
@terkmadugga wait.. Ross Brawn has a podcast!?
terkmadugga
terkmadugga 2 miesięcy temu
You should listen to Ross Brawn's podcast. His team mates had every opportunity to challenge and beat him. It's just that they couldn't because he was too good.
Armin Sarjou
Armin Sarjou 2 miesięcy temu
Hey what’s the backing music to this ?
strider785
strider785 Miesiąc temu
@Armin Sarjou Sounds like the one to me! Great work man! Thanks for sharing 😀
Armin Sarjou
Armin Sarjou Miesiąc temu
@strider785 Closest i could find was Lianne La Havas - Please Don't Make me Cry, not sure if that's using a sample or the original source of the track. But I'm sure this is a Nick Hakim production based on his previous work.
strider785
strider785 Miesiąc temu
Did you ever find the answer to this?
Marty McFLY 1985
Marty McFLY 1985 2 miesięcy temu
Senna had Prost and F1 was worth watching, Lewis vs Nico was always worth watching by 2020 You have Lewis vs Lewis and only person who can catch him Bottas obeying Team Orders and NOT ATTEMPTING to get anywhere near Lewis Lewis in 20 , 30 even 70 years time been named Greatest F1 driver in History but living through this era of F1 is BORING ME SHITLESS every weekend
Jack B27
Jack B27 2 miesięcy temu
Fxn4 yeh only team orders when ham was fighting vet, now no challengers are in the mix valt just ain’t quick enough 9 outta 10 times
Fxn4
Fxn4 2 miesięcy temu
Bottass isnt ‘obeying team orders’ all the time, he just isnt as quick as Lewis. Sure, lewis has the fastest car on the grid but u cant hide the fact he is a FANTASTIC Driver. Not saying he is the greatest, but certainly an above average driver. I agree with the ‘boring era’ part of ur comment tho. Put Lewis back in mclaren and we might see some fun action, and lewis beating the midfield and making mclaren great again.
TheMightyHarihar
TheMightyHarihar 2 miesięcy temu
Life is not cruel, it's his karma that he has to pay for. Every action we take in this life and previous lives affect our karma, the karma can be good, it can be bad. A King can become a pauper overnight and a pauper can become a King overnight, does schumacher deserve what happened to him? Probably not, no one deserves a vegetative state, I'd rather die than be in the condition that schumacher is in. However he will pay for his karma and eventually come out stronger.
cat stevens
cat stevens 2 miesięcy temu
Simple, he cheated a lot.
ApexInstinct
ApexInstinct 2 miesięcy temu
@Michael Callinan Why you deleting your replies bro?
ApexInstinct
ApexInstinct 2 miesięcy temu
@Michael Callinan 🤣🤣🤣
Michael Callinan
Michael Callinan 2 miesięcy temu
@ApexInstinct what's with the bad language
ApexInstinct
ApexInstinct 2 miesięcy temu
@Michael Callinan Wtf? 🤣
Liam Horn
Liam Horn 2 miesięcy temu
Lewis is just like him
tiktok toyatoya
tiktok toyatoya 2 miesięcy temu
Keep fighting Michael
tiktok toyatoya
tiktok toyatoya 2 miesięcy temu
❤️
AminoExcess
AminoExcess 2 miesięcy temu
GOAT
J G
J G 2 miesięcy temu
The cheating
Matty
Matty 2 miesięcy temu
Imagine still being bitter he was better than hill anyway.
IrishBlaine
IrishBlaine 2 miesięcy temu
The salt.
ally haze
ally haze 2 miesięcy temu
He was easily the best on the grid. But like all winners dating back to the very first f1 championship right thru 2day its the car.
Marty McFLY 1985
Marty McFLY 1985 2 miesięcy temu
Michael is the only driver alive to be treated like he's Dead at 1000 Ferrari Race with Sky F1 obituary for him before Ferraris 1000 race
Rockeye Tom
Rockeye Tom 2 miesięcy temu
Because the old Michael that we all know and love is dead, he's obviously now an absolute shadow of his former self. Unrecognisable to the champion we once knew. It's sad but it's the truth.
Infinityeight
Infinityeight 2 miesięcy temu
In 1992 As a young lad in my teens, I got into watching Formula 1. Instead of just supporting the world champion best drivers, I decided to follow a young up and coming racer who caught my eye - His name was Michael Schumacher
BoneYard
BoneYard 2 miesięcy temu
Same here :'(
Marty McFLY 1985
Marty McFLY 1985 2 miesięcy temu
As a Brit i'm more a Sch Vet / Max fan than i am a Lewis or Nigel fan as Lewis and Nigel are both boring to watch mainly you never see Lewis after lap one then he gets on screen again behind Safety Car then he next appears on screen crossing finish line
Joe Mills
Joe Mills 2 miesięcy temu
Can't disagree. Although I love Lewis, it comes more from when he was driving for McLaren, often having to get tough overtaking done and often hard racing against good competitors. Back in the day when there wasn't so much of this racing away from everyone at the front. Not saying that's Lewis' fault, though... just circumstances within the sport.
Alex Grant
Alex Grant 2 miesięcy temu
Michael Schumacher is a formula one great but he always said records were there to be broken. If/when Lewis Hamilton breaks his, it will have been due to talent, hard work & his determination to never be happy but always push himself to be better season after season. The same drive that made Michael so great. Of course the car has helped but as it did for Michael after all it is a motorsport. The best drivers always get the best cars that’s just how it works. If Michael were still around the sport he would undoubtedly be very supportive of Lewis’ drive towards unparalleled greatness (as his family have been) so why don’t fans show the same support & respect. Lewis being great doesn’t make Michael less great just as Michael didn’t make Senna or Fangio less great. They are true greats of our sport. Let’s honour & respect them rather then squabble & argue. It’s what Ayrton, Juan, Michael & Lewis would want!
Hashim Afzal
Hashim Afzal 2 miesięcy temu
@JW Lol "team game". You know there was a reason why there was controversy after the race and a call for ban on team orders, but you're still giving justification for one race win over the other, being the hypocrite that you are. Whether it's at the start of the season or at the end, a driver shouldn't be given team orders to let another pass even if he has no chance of winning the championship. Where is the excitement in that?! But no, you want to give one preference to a driver for an absurd reason and a subjective one. Moron.
JW
JW 2 miesięcy temu
@Hashim Afzal you must've started watching F1 in 2014. 🤡. HE COULDNT WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, so they made him play the team game. Rubens was 4 races in to a season and was nowhere near losing the championship. How can you not understand that, either you're stupid or you just don't want to understand. By the way, Schumacher is the reason I started watching F1, so that blows your argument out of the water.
Hashim Afzal
Hashim Afzal 2 miesięcy temu
@JW You must be a typical Hamilton fanboy judging by your comment. Tell me what part of my brain I don't use? You're not okay with the Ruben pass but you're okay with Bottas being told to move over. Either way, if you take the competition out of the sport then you don't have much of a "sport" now do you?
JW
JW 2 miesięcy temu
@Hashim Afzal at the end of a season when bottas couldn't mathematically win the WDC.. not 4 races in when everyone is still fighting for the championship. Use your brain before you talk nonsense
Hashim Afzal
Hashim Afzal 2 miesięcy temu
@Desmond Senna did that to Prost, but all of a sudden he's the greatest driver ever.
LordSeth1000
LordSeth1000 2 miesięcy temu
Comment section: I hate schu and he's not the best because he cheated Lewis is nowhere near the level of schu because his cars too dominant 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Wing Zero
Wing Zero 23 dni temu
@Simon Williams No chance, Hamilton is top ten, looking at all f1 drivers from the past.
Simon Williams
Simon Williams 2 miesięcy temu
@LordSeth1000 Agreed, but difficult to order due to the differing circumstances regarding the times and the equipment. You also need to be looking at people such as Nuvolari and Ascari, but different times,mate, different times.
LordSeth1000
LordSeth1000 2 miesięcy temu
I think they're arguably the top 3 drivers ever
Simon Williams
Simon Williams 2 miesięcy temu
@LordSeth1000 As an example of another driver, often referred to as the greatest, being flawed. But it seems to me that Senna nerfing Prost off, for instance, is much more acceptable than Schumacher trying to take Villeneuve off. I consider Schumacher to be the better driver. His championships were won when reliability was a bigger problem than it is now,(when did Lewis last have a mechanical?), and the Benetton and Ferrari were not always the best car on the grid.
LordSeth1000
LordSeth1000 2 miesięcy temu
@Simon Williams in response too? As the best?
daedralord1
daedralord1 2 miesięcy temu
Micheal was 10 times the driver Hamilton is. It’s not hard to win many titles when your car is is faster than anyone else for years. Micheal won titles when other teams were faster than the Ferrari. Micheal won titles when drivers actually raced. When formula 1 drivers were men not the look after your tyres rich little boys we have now
Jeevan Gill
Jeevan Gill 2 miesięcy temu
@Neil Robson He left them ages ago but is still the reason why their engine is so far and away the best out of everyones. You can't level him as being a knock against Schumacher and not Hamilton.
Neil Robson
Neil Robson 2 miesięcy temu
Jeevan Gill He left them ages ago. The best drivers end up in the best car - Hamilton is no exception. - and races far cleaner than Schumacher ever did....
Jeevan Gill
Jeevan Gill 2 miesięcy temu
@Neil Robson Yh, same reason Mercedes is so dominant right now.
Neil Robson
Neil Robson 2 miesięcy temu
Jeevan Gill Ross Brawn.....
Jeevan Gill
Jeevan Gill 2 miesięcy temu
@Neil Robson It wasn't that before he joined.
D C
D C 2 miesięcy temu
Legacy tainted by the fact he was a dirty driver, loved driving into people just far to much.
Matthew Clifford
Matthew Clifford 2 miesięcy temu
That he crashed into all of his title rivals
Matty
Matty 2 miesięcy temu
Hill ruined Schumacher races too
Caled Ramsahoi
Caled Ramsahoi 2 miesięcy temu
Michael is formula one.
Pete Kay
Pete Kay 2 miesięcy temu
Just think, before Michaels accident Lewis only had 1 world title. Wonder if he knows Lewis is close? Keep fighting.
Pete Kay
Pete Kay 2 miesięcy temu
Well said 👏would be nice to see Michael do a presentation if/when Lewis equals or breaks his record.
Alex Grant
Alex Grant 2 miesięcy temu
Sadly he probably doesn’t but when Lewis broke through as a rookie Michael spoke about what a talent he was & mentioned that records were there to be broken & he welcomed people challenging/breaking his whether that be Hamilton or someone else so he definitely saw the potential Lewis had. Greatness recognising greatness!
Enyalios Ares
Enyalios Ares 2 miesięcy temu
Get well soon Michael. When Lewis breaks your record it doesn’t diminish what a legend you are and how amazing you are. That and the things you did for the sport. Everyone will always be compared to the great Michael Schumacher
mark taylor
mark taylor 2 miesięcy temu
@Enyalios Ares its not really a dig. Its a comparison, one you understood. It achieved what it was meant to in making you understand my feelings about schumi. You're the one that choose to focus on the negative. Thats on you.
Enyalios Ares
Enyalios Ares 2 miesięcy temu
mark taylor good of you to sully a nice post with an opportunity to have a dig at Hamilton. Well done
mark taylor
mark taylor 2 miesięcy temu
Forgetting the record. Michael was a great champion in a way that Lewis has never been.
1x2x3xdk
1x2x3xdk 2 miesięcy temu
GOAT
MHI Odyssey
MHI Odyssey 2 miesięcy temu
Mauricio arrivabene looks so young
The Old Bad Gamer
The Old Bad Gamer 2 miesięcy temu
Shumacher had competition ALL his career, from DIFFERENT teams. - Hill,Jacques, Mika, Juan, Kimi, Fernando. Hamilton did not. Only team mates, and its MORE easier beating team mates. Shumacher won championships in slower cars than his competitors. The Ferrari 2004 was a dog. Schumi all the skill.
sean mansell
sean mansell 2 miesięcy temu
He won one wdc without the team winning constructors trophy as for teammates massa got beat by Alonso and bottas when teammates barrichello got beat by button when teammates massa missed out out on wdc in 2008 despite Ferrari winning constructors
DCFC 23
DCFC 23 2 miesięcy temu
Bar Mika all those drivers are mediocre 😂 look at Schumachers team mates ffs Barrichello and irvine lmao he had it easy
Why Me, Why Not
Why Me, Why Not 2 miesięcy temu
Nothing... The man was a cheat! He had favour in every team he was in Benetton and Ferrari had the fastest car and even then his team mates had to move over and let him past (A1 ring Barrichello *cough cough) He smashed into Hill stopping him winning the 94 Championship and he tried the same with Villeneuve in 97 but failed. He parked his car in ras cas to stop Alonso getting pole soooo many other incidents. Cheat cheat cheat.
Why Me, Why Not
Why Me, Why Not 2 miesięcy temu
@Dan Who's John Barnard? What are you talking about?
Dan
Dan 2 miesięcy temu
@Why Me, Why Not who are you anyway?
Dan
Dan 2 miesięcy temu
@Why Me, Why Not Ha..... considering I'm family friends of John Barnard would state otherwise... I get your selfless ego to defend against him. Enjoy
Why Me, Why Not
Why Me, Why Not 2 miesięcy temu
@Dan watch it again. Then again and again. He see's exactly where JV is. He is a dirty cheat.
Dan
Dan 2 miesięcy temu
I would agree about 94 and 06... the 97 season was difficult to say as Villeneuve drove up the inside like a madman leaving Shumacher know where to go
Saman Khaledian
Saman Khaledian 2 miesięcy temu
Unfortunately this didn't tell Michael's greatness at all.
Saman Khaledian
Saman Khaledian 2 miesięcy temu
@Fxn4 yeah, I wanted to add sth but i didn't want to edit.
Fxn4
Fxn4 2 miesięcy temu
Imagine commenting on ur own comment lmfao
Saman Khaledian
Saman Khaledian 2 miesięcy temu
We should know Martin Brundle does not like him even a bit. there are circumstances he admited this.
john cale
john cale 2 miesięcy temu
OK - I understand now. Keep fighting, Michael.
Stefan rhys
Stefan rhys 2 miesięcy temu
I would love it if one of these days at a Grand Prix Michael just turned up to present the winners trophy without anyone integral knowing .. we’re all waiting for you, Michael ♥️
tiktok toyatoya
tiktok toyatoya 2 miesięcy temu
I'd cry
niel thakrar
niel thakrar 2 miesięcy temu
Hamilton can win as many titles as he wants but he will never be as good as Schumacher
niel thakrar
niel thakrar 2 miesięcy temu
@Corey Rod not making excuses at all. I respect Hamilton is a great racer. No one can beat him at all. I see him easily winning every year until he retires or Mercedes pull out of F1. It is simply my opinion that Schumacher was better in his prime than Hamiton is now. I also would put Senna, Prost, Lauda, Hunt, Clark, Fangio, Moss ahead of Schumacher and Hamilton. It is simply my opinion and everyone is entitled to one.
J T
J T 2 miesięcy temu
@Corey Rod Sounds more like Niel Thakrar's opinion than an excuse. An excuse would be if he said Hamilton is only winning because of the car etc.
Corey Rod
Corey Rod 2 miesięcy temu
Already making excuses because Hamilton is about to surpass all his records. face it Hamilton is better than schumacher. The one time Schumacher had a good teammate he got dominated 3 straight seasons
Chris Marsh
Chris Marsh 2 miesięcy temu
Micheal was a mass of contradictions, super fast, super great and a super sized bugger. Just ask Damon Hill. But I loved him as a racer. I want my heroes to be many things, I don't want Snow White give me shades of colour.
Daniel John
Daniel John 2 miesięcy temu
He was so exciting as win at all costs. How it should be. Its boring now
wolfe1970
wolfe1970 2 miesięcy temu
Was he special ? He was in the best car, isnt that what current people say about Lewis.....
James Fisher
James Fisher 2 miesięcy temu
​@wolfe1970 Some of that's a bit misleading... Hamilton is the same age as Schumacher was when he won his seventh world title and both had competed in the same number of seasons (although technically less for Schumacher as 1991 and 1999 were not full seasons). The win to races ratio you refer to was subsequently distorted by Schumacher's 3 year return to a midfield team in his forties. Schumacher got to his tally of 91 wins in actually fewer races than Hamilton will have competed in when he arrives at win 91. There's lots of ways these things can be interpreted, but frankly stats have to be looked at carefully and put in context. It is not inaccurate to say that Lewis looks set to take these records because of longer seasons, regulation stability and relatively more dominant cars. Lewis has made the most of his talent by capitalising on the opportunities he has had, but Schumacher achievements were every bit as impressive (and to me even more so).
wolfe1970
wolfe1970 2 miesięcy temu
@Mark R Not in a Jordan he didn't, only when he got to Ferrari did he really dominate, and that was cause he had the best car, you also seem to have forgotten, Lewis beat Alonso in his rookie season, then won the Championship in his second season, took Schumacher 3 years, plus Lewis has won more times in fewer races ratio
Mark R
Mark R 2 miesięcy temu
@ApexInstinct yes just like Lewis. I am not arguing a case for Michael or Lewis. Both are absolute legends
Mark R
Mark R 2 miesięcy temu
@wolfe1970 one win from midfield. Michael did that many many more times
ApexInstinct
ApexInstinct 2 miesięcy temu
@Mark R Just like Lewis then...
Floyds high heels
Floyds high heels 2 miesięcy temu
When you compare stats it looks as if Lewis is on Schumi’s level, but if you know the sport you’ll know Schumacher was on a different level, that’s why stats in sports don’t tell the whole truth
Jeevan Gill
Jeevan Gill 2 miesięcy temu
@Shermarki James Clearly you don't the sport very well and if you don't hear anybody talk about Michael being the GOAT then you must be hearing only Hamilton fans who have only been watching the sport for maximum five years.
Graham Barnewall
Graham Barnewall 2 miesięcy temu
Floyds high heels no idea about 1995 but deffo this plpost.info/chat/nN22e5bWtp1yiYo/wideo.html
Floyds high heels
Floyds high heels 2 miesięcy temu
Graham Barnewall Did they “cheat” in 1995 too?
Graham Barnewall
Graham Barnewall 2 miesięcy temu
Aiden Millward does a great video on the cheating Benneton, the secret lines of code that weren’t deleted from the ECU, funny of all the info MS’s fan know they never seem to know about the cheating and dangerous driving end of things
Neil Robson
Neil Robson 2 miesięcy temu
He couldn’t win clean - should have been stripped of at least one title....
Richard Dale
Richard Dale 2 miesięcy temu
Stefano was a great team boss. Always liked him.
Luke Mallory
Luke Mallory 2 miesięcy temu
Indeed, the head of Lamborghini now.
Richard Dale
Richard Dale 2 miesięcy temu
Funny how everyone is arse licking him now. When he was racing most folk hated him. He could be a cheating bastard really.
Neil Williams
Neil Williams 2 miesięcy temu
0:04 interesting how Jean Todt didn't respond to De Montezemolo's hugs - probably knew De Montezemolo's desire to replace Michael with Kimi was incredibly misjudged; I'm sure Schumi could have won another couple of titles if he had stayed.
Neil Williams
Neil Williams 2 miesięcy temu
Miss Piggy sorry but that's nonsense... He only started having neck muscle issues when he had the motorcycle incident in 2009...
Miss Piggy
Miss Piggy 2 miesięcy temu
Michael left because his neck muscle's were starting to give out.
Neil Williams
Neil Williams 2 miesięcy temu
mattster147 yep, me too - and I don't think he would have made as many mistakes as Kimi did in 2008
mattster147
mattster147 2 miesięcy temu
I definitely think he would've walked 2007 with alonso and Hamilton squabbling with each other
Neil Williams
Neil Williams 2 miesięcy temu
Alex Veldhuis sorry, I was making reference to 'the common sentiment', not your sentiment...
Jonny Scott
Jonny Scott 2 miesięcy temu
A great legend and would have been great if he was at mugello for the race but oh well, and I got to see him at he British gp twice when racing for Mercedes.
Russell
Russell 2 miesięcy temu
Winning mentality thats all
Momo 1988
Momo 1988 2 miesięcy temu
We all have our own favourite drivers.....But there is no doubt we can all agree Schumacher was nothing short of a genius in a formula 1 car
1x2x3xdk
1x2x3xdk 2 miesięcy temu
@sean mansell 7 world championships
sean mansell
sean mansell 2 miesięcy temu
@1x2x3xdk I am not whining I just have a different opinion to yours which you can't accept
1x2x3xdk
1x2x3xdk 2 miesięcy temu
@sean mansell well that's motorsport. Take it or leave it but quit your whining
sean mansell
sean mansell 2 miesięcy temu
@1x2x3xdk I didn't upload the video I didn't ban him for races I didn't disqualify a complete season from his record Schumacher only cared what people thought of him when he retired ie the return whether you like it or not it is fact just watch the video see what some people have to say and what happened at benneton was not aggression. It was out right cheating to gain an advantage
1x2x3xdk
1x2x3xdk 2 miesięcy temu
@sean mansell sad you bunch of whiners can't appreciate talent and aggression in sports people.
Adam Shaw
Adam Shaw 2 miesięcy temu
I wish we could find out more about how he's doing now. Greatest ever.
John Enright
John Enright 2 miesięcy temu
@bsrlbck2013 thanks for the information - even if it is very sad!
John Enright
John Enright 2 miesięcy temu
@Alex Grant I'm afraid you may be right! so sad!
Alex Grant
Alex Grant 2 miesięcy temu
John Enright unfortunately (perhaps this is a pessimistic view) but I feel like if there was something positive to update us on then they would have done so. No reason to keep good news quiet. I take the silence as bad because I can totally understand why they would rather keep the bad news to themselves!
Nigel Murphy
Nigel Murphy 2 miesięcy temu
He's one of the greatest no doubt about that. But Senna's the greatest for me. Hang in there Michael.
Fresky
Fresky 2 miesięcy temu
Yeah he has a lot of fans who say they have the right to know how he is but then there are his haters who want the same so they can ridicule him! Don't you think it's best kept secret if he is in a bad way?
Marty Han
Marty Han 2 miesięcy temu
I hope we can see him in a car again one day. Get well soon Michael!
FreedomIsSlavery
FreedomIsSlavery 2 miesięcy temu
Naive. He is bedbound and can't talk, how is he ever going to drive again?
kadir bashir
kadir bashir 2 miesięcy temu
@Dan what's spaka? Don't know that word, must be your mum's name. What did he Todt say, that Schumacher is up and about jumping around. He said nothing of significance.
Dan
Dan 2 miesięcy temu
kadir bashir jean todt has already said u spaka
Stephen O'Connell
Stephen O'Connell 2 miesięcy temu
gstfullfocus whether in Michael position or in our situation. We’re all due to be 6ft under. I see your point but I stand firm it’s tasteless. If you was in that scenario. I couldn’t laugh. Instead I would pause and try to reflect how your poor friends and family have to see their son/brother/friend lay awake but lifeless. The little things we take for granted with the loved ones. Cherish it because you never know when it will be taken away.
gstfullfocus
gstfullfocus 2 miesięcy temu
@Stephen O'Connell he's not having a laugh at Michael's expense though... he made a harsh but real statement. It's a tragedy but it's inevitable.
Dkentflyer
Dkentflyer 2 miesięcy temu
Keep fighting Michael, you absolute legend.